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  1. #1861
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo View Post
    People typically will ignore what I ask, get snarky, claim I'm yelling at them, everything except listen to what I request. People tend to assume that it's based on the way I state it, nah. I can and have been gentle with my feedback to only receive meltdowns.

    You'd think they'd wonder why they are out of MP constantly and barely healing when spamming cure 3, but idk, for some people, claiming they think at all is a big assumption.

    ᵗʰᶦˢ ʰᵃˢ ᵇᵉᵉⁿ ᵇʳᵒᵘᵍʰᵗ ᵗᵒ ʸᵒᵘ ᵇʸ ᵗᵒˣᶦᶜ ˡᵒᶜᵃˡ ᵐᵃⁿ
    Yeah, can vouch for that. It's a hit or miss as to who will listen.

    Example of someone who took it well: I was in Thornmarch because of Trials Roulette, before the changes to ARR. Got a WHM that kept spamming Cure 3. Our team kept getting blasted by AoEs, and though I was trying my best to heal while raising people as a lv 50 Scholar, we kept wiping. At the third wipe he said "I don't have enough MP to raise everyone", and I pointed out that he's using Cure 3 whenever anyone takes damage. Told him to try and use Medica 2 or just Medica to heal the party and keep a regen on the tanks. Following pull went on well, we met up in-game because we shared the same World and I took some time to explain each healer to him. He went on to clearing Savages as SCH.

    Example of someone who didn't: World of Darkness, again a healer that spammed Cure 3. And I mean, proper spam, even cast it when no one but the tank was taking damage. I wasn't even a healer at the time, it was an Astro who had a hard time keeping up with everything going on, especially when the DPS stood on stray AoEs. I told the healer not to use Cure 3 because it's got a shorter range and it eats up a lot of MP. To use other spells, which are less situational. Cue freakout: saying that not only is it stronger, they main White Mage and thus knew what they were doing, and that the fault was the Astro's for not using their healing spells. I didn't even point out that they were healing when no one was taking damage, and I used emoji in chat to make sure that people didn't take it too poorly. Didn't matter.

    There really is no winning it, people will get defensive rather than taking advice.
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  2. #1862
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Greatest feeling in Frontline Roulette: start out from bottom rock then for whatever reason then ends up winning the match. I killed nobody, only so many assists but a win is a win! Just 11 more victories then I'll get my mount!

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo View Post
    [...]You'd think they'd wonder why they are out of MP constantly and barely healing when spamming cure 3, but idk, for some people, claiming they think at all is a big assumption.
    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Yeah, can vouch for that. It's a hit or miss as to who will listen[...]

    [...]There really is no winning it, people will get defensive rather than taking advice.
    This is why I will not give out advice/tips unless the person in question asks or things had gone so wrong the run wipes couple of times. I'll just deal with it to the end, then maybe vent here (or any other group chats I'm in) if I feel like to lol.
    (2)

    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

  3. #1863
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    This is why I will not give out advice/tips unless the person in question asks or things had gone so wrong the run wipes couple of times. I'll just deal with it to the end, then maybe vent here (or any other group chats I'm in) if I feel like to lol.
    I'd be fine with that if the response I got weren't "But did you say something?". Which... even if I ask "Anyone got questions" when I clearly know what the problem is, people just respond with absolute silence. So it just ends up becoming a weird loop. If I offer help, without mocking or anything, often even trying to be as polite as I can be, people get mad. If I don't, people criticise that I didn't say anything.

    That, and more often than not, people generally don't ask :x they just don't speak.
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  4. #1864
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    XelaYura's Avatar
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    Xela Colotlh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    It's the fur. Not that it helps, but at least gives the illusion there's something covering them.

    I don't pay attention anymore. I just ended up chalking it to "Eh, aether shenanigans" and barely bother looking at who's in my party. But every so often in voice chat, you do have people uncomfortable that X player is stark nakey. Especially in places with hazardous environments.

    We have so many good glamours in the game. Even for the larger races, where it's hard to glamour due to stuff being stretched, there's some good stuff. Why do people insist on going into battle as Godbert? :| You're not Godbert. You'll never be Godbert.
    Well that too, but was mostly cuz i like Cats... >.>
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  5. #1865
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    Jettinson's Avatar
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    Ivan Moondiver
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    Alpha
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    Quote Originally Posted by XelaYura View Post
    Hhmm, iirc i had 3 Hrotgars in speedos in the Hrasvaelgr dungeon. As an astro, it was very hard to look at them Also aim to heal them.... >.>
    i'm so used seeing this Highland male Hyur wearing only smallclothes with the same color of his skin in Alliance Raids that nothing bothers me anymore... lol
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  6. #1866
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Alaha Vellonnu
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    Lamia
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    White Mage Lv 100
    To the random DRK I just had in Troia:

    What did I do wrong as a sage that run? Why did you feel the need to constantly spam TBN/Oblation on me when you needed it more? Why did you spam Shirk on me when there was no need?

    Was it because I missed the party once for Panhaima on the first boss and everyone spread out? Was it because I dared to come as a shield healer this time, a pew-pew one at that, and dared to dps? Was it because I dared to keep up with you and occasionally run ahead to encourage you to do big pulls? Was it because I kept putting a shield on you, aka using my kit to the best of the run, to make it as smooth and as quick as possible? Or were you more annoyed at the fact that I was also dropping shields on you to spam Toxicon? You were silent the entire run save for the emoted hug at the end.

    Because I'm honestly baffled by your actions.

    Sincerely,
    One very confused healer
    (5)
    This one is beyond your help. Only sleep can save her now.

  7. #1867
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    Renalt's Avatar
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cincierta View Post
    To the random DRK I just had in Troia:

    What did I do wrong as a sage that run? Why did you feel the need to constantly spam TBN/Oblation on me when you needed it more? Why did you spam Shirk on me when there was no need?

    Was it because I missed the party once for Panhaima on the first boss and everyone spread out? Was it because I dared to come as a shield healer this time, a pew-pew one at that, and dared to dps? Was it because I dared to keep up with you and occasionally run ahead to encourage you to do big pulls? Was it because I kept putting a shield on you, aka using my kit to the best of the run, to make it as smooth and as quick as possible? Or were you more annoyed at the fact that I was also dropping shields on you to spam Toxicon? You were silent the entire run save for the emoted hug at the end.

    Because I'm honestly baffled by your actions.

    Sincerely,
    One very confused healer
    If they shirked the healer and it actually succeeded in giving you aggro speaks in volumes that they had no aggro and neither did the DPS.

    At least you made it through that run unscathed from what it seems.
    (2)
    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

  8. #1868
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Alaha Vellonnu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    If they shirked the healer and it actually succeeded in giving you aggro speaks in volumes that they had no aggro and neither did the DPS.

    At least you made it through that run unscathed from what it seems.
    There were 3 spots where I almost pulled aggro off the tank while I was aoeing after I got Shirked. I'm just honestly baffled by the tank I had.
    (2)
    This one is beyond your help. Only sleep can save her now.

  9. #1869
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cincierta View Post
    There were 3 spots where I almost pulled aggro off the tank while I was aoeing after I got Shirked. I'm just honestly baffled by the tank I had.
    I don't understand why tanks get all huffy like that. I consider it a personal insult if I don't have ALL the aggro all the time. That's my job and I'm not doing it right if I don't have aggro. If they pull before I do? Great! They trust me to pull it off of them and go crazy and do W2W...in which I'll do just that.
    (2)
    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

  10. #1870
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Alaha Vellonnu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    I don't understand why tanks get all huffy like that.
    It makes me wonder who hurt them to do this.
    (2)
    This one is beyond your help. Only sleep can save her now.

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