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  1. #1
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    Xaphire's Avatar
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    Aeonna Calvados
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 100
    This isn't fraud, nor is it griefing.

    It *is* kind of a rude thing to do. Let's break it down a bit, though.

    Typically, at least in my personal experience, fraud in MMOs is having an agreement for a trade and one party either delivering a dummy item or otherwise not holding to their end of a bargain made. For example, lets say two items have the same icon. One of these two items is incredibly rare and in high demand, the other is unremarkable and incredibly common. You agree to purchase the rare item directly from Player A, but when the trade occurs, Player A swaps in the common item. Player B in that scenario is the victim of fraud.

    Unless the party finder specifically said "I, the GNB, have my 635 weapon and if it drops it will be free roll", no one in the party was defrauded.

    A player deciding to trash (which is lame) an item to roll need on one that dropped isn't griefing anybody. This is something I'll do in dungeons, though I desynth the item rather than trash it. Would I do it with on-content BiS weapons? No. That's why it's rude for the player to have done.

    Being able to roll need over being able to roll greed is just how the game goes. If someone else in the party wanted the gunblade, they should gear and play GNB.
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    jimmybe29's Avatar
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    Yamakaji Edo'sen
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xaphire View Post
    A player deciding to trash (which is lame) an item to roll need on one that dropped isn't griefing anybody. This is something I'll do in dungeons, though I desynth the item rather than trash it. Would I do it with on-content BiS weapons? No. That's why it's rude for the player to have done.

    Being able to roll need over being able to roll greed is just how the game goes.
    The game stops you from rolling "need" on pieces of equipment you already possess. Going to the extent of swapping weapon, deleting yours just to roll need and deny it to 7 other players is griefing.
    this is the same thing as deleting an item from the loot table like it never dropped in the first place since no one benefits from it and was done intentionally to screw over other players, the person admitted to it.
    This obviously cannot be compared to a dungeon where you can desynth or trade gear for GC seals so you get some value from it and this is farmable content whereas in party finder you can take up to 2 months to get a single weapon thanks to the weekly and looting system. It took me 7 weeks just to get my main DPS weapon since I play solely in party finder.

    I said this was a complaint/suggestion thread for a reason, "this is how the game does" to justify toxic/griefing behavior just shows how badly people accept these types of behavior when it can be changed from adding a single line of text in prohibited activities.
    Here are the chat logs for more "context" and to show people wanted the weapon.

    The GNB after looting the weapon :



    Quote Originally Posted by Xaphire View Post
    If someone else in the party wanted the gunblade, they should gear and play GNB.
    Also, this has to be the WORST take I have ever read when it comes to gearing, this is a game that promotes being able to play and gear multiple jobs and if every player chose to grief loot then what's the point of a random weapon dropping in coffers?
    i'm an omnijob player and I usually fill whatever a pf needs to go in raid faster or to help/reclear with friends (i'm main MNK + GNB), if I can cross a line on a random weapon on P8S just because someone decides no one will have it even tho he already possesses it, then what's the point ?
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    Last edited by jimmybe29; 11-11-2022 at 02:47 AM.

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    Conadrium's Avatar
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    Perrin Aybarah
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Post the entire chat. You aren’t showing where he did it just to get the item and admitted it. If he did you can report this as actions taken to impede gameplay for others. It’s a catch all for a reason.
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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xaphire View Post
    If someone else in the party wanted the gunblade, they should gear and play GNB.
    Tell us when we'll be able to play several jobs at the same time. Ty.
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  5. 11-11-2022 02:48 AM