Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent. 2.0

[Midareyukki]

The only reason to even use Vengeance on trash is for the extra DPS it gives you, which I'll grant is all the reason you could ever need. Beyond that, the cooldown on Bloodwhetting is short enough that you can afford to sit there and take it straight to the face without the healer ever needing to spare you a glance.

Oh that much is true. Still, use Vengeance for mob pulls, it helps killing stuff faster.

"But it's scratch damage " yeah, well people also die to scratch damage, so shush.

[Deveryn]

"tis but a scratch!"

"your arm's off"

"no it isn't."

... "Have at you!"

[Cincierta]

Someone told me recently that the pillars always fall in such a way that if you just stand anywhere along the outer edge of the room you will never get hit by them. I can't verify if this is 100% true every time but after a few more runs it appeared to be the case. Never realized this before!

Not always. I've found it's a fairly decent 75% chance that they'll fall toward the center. The other 25% they'll fall toward another edge close to where it landed. Best advice I can give about that is stand next to a pillar and look at its shadow. When it starts falling, you can see where it's going and you can move from there. If you don't, well, most likely you weren't either paying attention or your ping sucks.

I've only had a handful of instances on that fight where the pillars will criss-cross literally at the boss' gate on the north side of the arena while I would be tanking in that spot, move, and not get hit by it. That fight I bore witness to seeing the sprout reaper go squish after the three pillars, I saw a second set that did that at the north exit.

Maybe it's entirely RNG on the boss' ring, who knows.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Not always. I've found it's a fairly decent 75% chance that they'll fall toward the center. The other 25% they'll fall toward another edge close to where it landed. Best advice I can give about that is stand next to a pillar and look at its shadow. When it starts falling, you can see where it's going and you can move from there. If you don't, well, most likely you weren't either paying attention or your ping sucks.

I've only had a handful of instances on that fight where the pillars will criss-cross literally at the boss' gate on the north side of the arena while I would be tanking in that spot, move, and not get hit by it. That fight I bore witness to seeing the sprout reaper go squish after the three pillars, I saw a second set that did that at the north exit.

Maybe it's entirely RNG on the boss' ring, who knows.

My fave sight was looking at Alphinaud gets squished by all 3 falling stalactites for whatever reason in one of my trust runs back in ShB. I thought game AI would force them to cancel any spellcast to react to mechanic but not that one particular time.

[Tale_Schmitt]

Today I met a tank on Gubal Library Hard who kept moving all the time. Never stopped, like he was playing Dancer. He pulled enemies into those small round rooms and moved from one side to another and the enemies naturally following him. He also kept going in circles spinning around the enemies too.

I was playing Ninja and naturally I was missing my directionals, DOTs and even AOEs when trying to help with the mobs. I had to refresh huton with mudras when he pulled them away.

And he did this even when there was no need, no mechanics or enemy attacks.

At the final boss when he kept doing this and after we had lost, I said "could you stay put when there's no need to move". He got upset and said he is gonna stay put then, try to keep up.

And he didn't move. He pissed off our healer by standing in the attacks. Healer asked what he was doing to which he replied "our Ninja wants to do AOEs". And finally he didn't get behind a boulder when meteor fell. He knew to get behind one on the first failed try.

Healer quit. I asked the tank if he lost on purpose. He said "I did what you asked".

[NekoMataMata]

I wish people weren't so defensive. Started a dungeon, tank didn't have stance on by first pull. I asked for them to put it on and they did immediately before putting out 4+ lines of text saying how they had no idea what I was talking about, how I must have been trolling and so on.

Please, calm down. All I asked was that you put your stance on. You did. Move on. Rest of the dungeon went smoothly but it really irritated me.

And before anyone that asks, all I typed was "stance" and "ty". I'm not one of those people with text macros and sound pings.

[Kansene]

Today I met a tank on Gubal Library Hard who kept moving all the time. Never stopped, like he was playing Dancer. He pulled enemies into those small round rooms and moved from one side to another and the enemies naturally following him. He also kept going in circles spinning around the enemies too.

I was playing Ninja and naturally I was missing my directionals, DOTs and even AOEs when trying to help with the mobs. I had to refresh huton with mudras when he pulled them away.

And he did this even when there was no need, no mechanics or enemy attacks.

At the final boss when he kept doing this and after we had lost, I said "could you stay put when there's no need to move". He got upset and said he is gonna stay put then, try to keep up.

And he didn't move. He pissed off our healer by standing in the attacks. Healer asked what he was doing to which he replied "our Ninja wants to do AOEs". And finally he didn't get behind a boulder when meteor fell. He knew to get behind one on the first failed try.

Healer quit. I asked the tank if he lost on purpose. He said "I did what you asked".

How very productive, mature and not at all petty of him.

[Lunaxia]

Feeling a bit frustrated after an attempted POTD run, and I can't tell if it's me being a bit of a grouch because of some IRL problems I've been having or if there's cause to be upset.

I joined a PF that basically said it was a run up to 200 (or close as possible.) I join, we enter... and the two recruiting are hovering somewhere just under 50. I felt a bit irritated, because I generally assume most runs would be done over 80 at least or pretty damn close to, but I thought maybe I was being miserable and decided to help them out blitzing the mobs and grabbing silver chests for them, hoping post-100 would be some fun. They were also using it as a levelling opportunity, which didn't bother me, but I was using my level 90 DPS for the ress and wasn't getting much benefit from any of this.

Pre 90 - 100, one of them announces they have a headache and have to go after 100, meaning I've pretty much just wasted a chunk of time. A little annoyed, but guessing it can't be helped, I say there's no point going on then. They then get sad because they "wanted to see 100", and when I offer there's no meaning in me doing this there's this awkward silence where they're probably hoping I'll go along with it anyway. I don't, and leave.

I guess people more patient than me might have stayed, but I really couldn't help but feel taken advantage of there. Was I too miserly?

[Merrigan]

I guess people more patient than me might have stayed, but I really couldn't help but feel taken advantage of there. Was I too miserly?

It's hard to say honestly. From what you tell us, they definitely diverged a bit between what they were announcing and what they were planning to do. You probably could have been more patient, but we all have our moments of fatigue. Don't beat yourself up too much about it (and besides, it's not like you've been spreading insults around).

Anyway; I'm back here to yell at people again who don't read the chat and/or don't bother to reply. Tam Tara's Hypogeum (brutal), two sprouts, the healer and me who were supposed to know the instance. Wipe on the first boss. I explain. Nobody answers, wipe again. On the way back, I write the strat again, this time stopping and refusing to keep moving until someone gives me a sign that they've read it right. The healer (... So, I remind you, someone who had to know the instance) finally responded five minutes later.

"Sorry, I was talking with my guild lol".

I... When everything is going well, I don't care if you're watching a show, or chatting on the side. But when you see that the group is going badly, maybe it's time to turn on the brain and focus on the instance? So that you don't hold up the people who are playing with you indefinitely? What is this way of considering the people you are playing with as vulgar bot, just good to make the instance pop but certainly not to take a single second of your attention?

Second boss, same story, two wipes. Except that this time, I realize that the sprouts are reading. They read, but they don't answer. Shyness, clumsiness with the game tools, I don't know. But for God's sake, at least let them know you've read and recorded. "Ok" would have been enough, and would have proved that I wasn't talking in the wind to explain an instance I've done hundreds of times... And explained almost as many times.

The dungeon was very long. Like Lunaxia, I don't know if I'm overreacting, but ignoring the instance chat is one of those "little" things that exasperate me very quickly. Being on a game doesn't exempt anyone from being polite: you do an instance with people, you give them the time they need; if you want to talk with your guild, you do a dungeon with your guild; and if someone does you a favor by explaining something, you thank them.

[VictorSpoils]

Feeling a bit frustrated after an attempted POTD run, and I can't tell if it's me being a bit of a grouch because of some IRL problems I've been having or if there's cause to be upset.

I joined a PF that basically said it was a run up to 200 (or close as possible.) I join, we enter... and the two recruiting are hovering somewhere just under 50. I felt a bit irritated, because I generally assume most runs would be done over 80 at least or pretty damn close to, but I thought maybe I was being miserable and decided to help them out blitzing the mobs and grabbing silver chests for them, hoping post-100 would be some fun. They were also using it as a levelling opportunity, which didn't bother me, but I was using my level 90 DPS for the ress and wasn't getting much benefit from any of this.

Pre 90 - 100, one of them announces they have a headache and have to go after 100, meaning I've pretty much just wasted a chunk of time. A little annoyed, but guessing it can't be helped, I say there's no point going on then. They then get sad because they "wanted to see 100", and when I offer there's no meaning in me doing this there's this awkward silence where they're probably hoping I'll go along with it anyway. I don't, and leave.

I guess people more patient than me might have stayed, but I really couldn't help but feel taken advantage of there. Was I too miserly?

I managed to get a group that made it to 200 after two groups that didn't go past 100 (failed to reconvene later + disconnect). It's a gamble.