Is SE planning to deal with ilvl cheese people?

[Toutatis]

If they want to make it difficult to cheese the ilvl, have a system that detects if a persons ilvl drastically changes from when they queue for the raid to the end of the raid. If there is a dramatic ilvl jump, sends a flag to GMs for investigation.

that would be a lot of trouble for something that may have little to no effect in the end. Also, people can switch to different jobs, including crafters while waiting for the queue to pop.

Anyway, I find that non CT raids is not much an issue on my server. The other raids regularly pop (I got 2x Ivalice and 2x Nier out of 4 times queuing last week). Haven’t queued this week yet.

[KairiElise]

Wait, you wipe on CT? That's possible?

I've seen so many people purposely die on these raids that it becomes actually funny at some points. Unless the entire alliance decides to derp on Ancient Flare in CT and blow up the ice shields in ST with the Amon boss or the Angra Mainyu on WOD with doom.

[Kranel_San]

This is getting a bit much

Remove the ilvl requirements from most alliance raids (With the exception of EW alliance raids)
See the definition of chaos with your own eyes
Have fun because this is going to be fun

[Deveryn]

If they want to make it difficult to cheese the ilvl, have a system that detects if a persons ilvl drastically changes from when they queue for the raid to the end of the raid. If there is a dramatic ilvl jump, sends a flag to GMs for investigation.

Still wouldn't really change the outcome of always getting CT due to factors listed by so many others, but that is a way they could have a system to punish ilvl exploits.

This is easier said than done and I don't think it helps that it would have to be specifically targeted to the one roulette. We're allowed to to gear up to match the item level for the duty, as one would ideally do for ultimates. This problem (with the questionable level of use) is a side effect / loophole of that and (as folks continue to mention) one of many factors in CT coming up in roulette.

[GTK0HLK]

If they want to make it difficult to cheese the ilvl, have a system that detects if a persons ilvl drastically changes from when they queue for the raid to the end of the raid. If there is a dramatic ilvl jump, sends a flag to GMs for investigation.

Still wouldn't really change the outcome of always getting CT due to factors listed by so many others, but that is a way they could have a system to punish ilvl exploits.

it's a good idea, but has some holes.

it would have to distinguish between Armor Sets, or count your highest ilvl based on gear on hand.(which can be gamed)
the first one here is pretty simple but someone would complain cause they didn't save their gear to a set. the other would put way more effort that many would thing SE would not.
(despite their small chunk of interest in keeping old content populated)

As for someone else saying people change gear whilst waiting/crafting.
It only would take into account the class that queued, the set, and/or Armor. once inside and after the roulette ends.
Which will need to block regearing after getting in to the instance, including locking being able to switch gear at all.
<which would annoy people if they're doing it for a quest, or any relic that needs to be presently used, yet they forgot>

Good idea, but it would need to be ironed out.
<since finding a good idea that would settle most expectations. yet not so consuming that SE wouldn't consider it>

[Avatre]

The only way to "solve" the ilvl cheesing is to either:

A) Put the CT raids into their own roulette/add to MSQ roulette(which would still require a bunch of tweeking to make it work)

Or

B) Change how AR works so that you can only access it after having cleared all items that are contained within, taking into account the job level that you queued as(somewhat like how Mentor Roulette needs you to have cleared everything already to be able to access it, just narrowed down to only alliance raids), and not having ilvl be a deciding factor - which could definitely lead to some very frustrating runs, but if people are refusing to do stuff/put on their recommended gear, well, GMs will be a bit busier.

Edit: Or change it so that the EXP rewarded by CT raids is 1/10 of what any of the other raids give since it is 1/1000000 of the attention needed to do them

[Imora]

I still fail to understand why you guys are in favor of forcing a playstyle, which is against ToS in normal circumstances to begin with.

Just don't do the roulette if you don't want s random raid.

I regularly get the Void Ark ones. I hate Dun Scaith. I do it anyway, because that's what the roulette gives me.

[angienessyo]

They'll never fix it so at this point I would rather they just rework the CT raids to give them more interesting mechanics. I don't care about all us veteran players, I care about the fact that new players get 3 uninteresting raids with very few mechanics. These aren't exciting at all for sprouts and it sucks that a new player's first experience in a 24 man is something so bland that everyone just steamrolls. I don't think they need to make them difficult, but they should be something more than a turn off your brain and roll your face on the keyboard raid. It'll also resolve the ilevel cheese if people actually have to put any sort of effort into them.

[ijuakos_xqwzts]

If you take off all your gear before queuing for alliance raid your ilvl becomes too low to queue into anything but the crystal tower series, and as crystal tower is way quicker and gives the same exp, people do this on purpose to get a quick roullete

Does this work on trials because I keep getting the same crap ones and I need something different, even if it's Ifrit.

[Deveryn]

Some of you that are so bothered by the cheese really need to ask yourselves why you do the roulette and what is that you get that you can't get some other way.