Can we get more ways to get timeworn artifacts?

[TaleraRistain]

The thing with Delubrum (and also PotD as the sole alternative) is that it's out on its own and you queue for it specifically, and dedicate your time to doing nothing but acquiring those artifacts.

The other stages can be achieved passively over time by running roulettes and being dropped into a useful dungeon. The artifacts and the 3x20 memories are the outliers, and it feels like more could be done. (I don't even see the value of making people do FATEs when they don't want to – it just raises the difficulty level for the occasional person who actually wants to do it out of curiosity.)

I feel like they could spice up attendance of less-popular roulette content with these. Put timeworn artifacts as a reward for the 50/80 roulette and memories as rewards for running the higher alliance raids – increasing as the raid series goes on (eg. one from Void Ark, two from Weeping City, three from Dun Scaith) so people don't just pile into the easiest option.

Timeworn would work very well on that roulette since it's also a source for items for two other expansion relics, alexandrite and singing clusters. So that would be an ideal place to put it and allow that roulette to do triple duty with passively gathering relic items.

[Iscah]

Timeworn would work very well on that roulette since it's also a source for items for two other expansion relics, alexandrite and singing clusters. So that would be an ideal place to put it and allow that roulette to do triple duty with passively gathering relic items.

Quadruple duty in fact, because the you can also get the green memories from level 60 and raw emotions from level 70.

[TaleraRistain]

Quadruple duty in fact, because the you can also get the green memories from level 60 and raw emotions from level 70.

Good point.

That's the kind of bonkers part of this step. I'm doing all the resistance weapons I didn't finish when it was current. No issues getting things up to timeworn outside of some general grind and very easy to passively get items by just keeping the quest active, turning in for a class, then getting it again.

Have raw emotions coming out of my ears from just passively getting 70 dungeons in roulettes or having them for WT.

But this step is so unusually limited. Only one alternative and not even a guarantee on that alternative like the alternatives for other steps. It makes it a huge bottleneck.

[Deveryn]

Good point.

That's the kind of bonkers part of this step. I'm doing all the resistance weapons I didn't finish when it was current. No issues getting things up to timeworn outside of some general grind and very easy to passively get items by just keeping the quest active, turning in for a class, then getting it again.

Have raw emotions coming out of my ears from just passively getting 70 dungeons in roulettes or having them for WT.

But this step is so unusually limited. Only one alternative and not even a guarantee on that alternative like the alternatives for other steps. It makes it a huge bottleneck.

5 runs of DR and you're done. That's less than 4 hours, where it used to be at least eight or so. PotD isn't a bad alternative if you actually run deep. If you're collecting all the weapons, some work is to be expected. Such is the pursuit of the glams and they didn't make this with completionists in mind.

[Reimmi]

Do you remember when it took them a week to ban and remove the user that posted a lewd miqote mod after it was on page one with atleast ten pages of replies?

Yeah, they will acknowledge translation errors and some other small things like posting summaries of Live Letters weeks after their original airing, but the OF is now largely an afterthought.

They read the japanese forums
We don't matter though lol

[TaleraRistain]

5 runs of DR and you're done. That's less than 4 hours, where it used to be at least eight or so. PotD isn't a bad alternative if you actually run deep. If you're collecting all the weapons, some work is to be expected. Such is the pursuit of the glams and they didn't make this with completionists in mind.

I'm not interested in DR. What do you mean by run deep? You don't get any better return going from 51 to 100 than you do spamming 51-60. Or even 1 to 100. I've tried all of those over the past few months. If you mean fixed party, well that's an even bigger roadblock.

It's not about some work. It's about this step being out of alignment with the other steps in the tier and small changes they could make to ease that dissonance.

[Liam_Harper]

5 runs of DR and you're done. That's less than 4 hours, where it used to be at least eight or so. PotD isn't a bad alternative if you actually run deep. If you're collecting all the weapons, some work is to be expected. Such is the pursuit of the glams and they didn't make this with completionists in mind.

Then why aren't you arguing we should rework the other relics to require discord and PF to complete so we have to "work as expected" for them?

That's something I notice on these forums. The arguments are only against adding QoL or making something easier. But there's almost never arguments for removing existing QoL because of the same principles. People argue to the death how something would be bad for the game and needs to remain tedious or clunky, but as soon as the devs add that QoL, it's suddenly fine and there's silence.

Where are the anti-QoL brigade over things like Repair requests or adding weapon coffers to EX or so on, things you all argued endlessly would ruin the game if they were added. Shouldn't there be threads demanding they revert all these game destroying filthy improvements to QoL we've been getting over the years?

No there isn't. Because it's not about what's good for the game. It's just a handful of bitter players who just don't want to see anyone else having fun and have twisted into a righteous cause.

[Deveryn]

I'm not interested in DR. What do you mean by run deep? You don't get any better return going from 51 to 100 than you do spamming 51-60. Or even 1 to 100. I've tried all of those over the past few months. If you mean fixed party, well that's an even bigger roadblock.

It's not about some work. It's about this step being out of alignment with the other steps in the tier and small changes they could make to ease that dissonance.

It's a deep dungeon, what's there to misread. Go beyond the safety of 100 and I'm sure someone can confirm the drops are more or less guaranteed. If you want to faceroll, you get faceroll RNG.

Then why aren't you arguing we should rework the other relics to require discord and PF to complete so we have to "work as expected" for them?

That's something I notice on these forums. The arguments are only against adding QoL or making something easier. But there's almost never arguments for removing existing QoL because of the same principles. People argue to the death how something would be bad for the game and needs to remain tedious or clunky, but as soon as the devs add that QoL, it's suddenly fine and there's silence.

Where are the anti-QoL brigade over things like Repair requests or adding weapon coffers to EX or so on, things you all argued endlessly would ruin the game if they were added. Shouldn't there be threads demanding they revert all these game destroying filthy improvements to QoL we've been getting over the years?

No there isn't. Because it's not about what's good for the game. It's just a handful of bitter players who just don't want to see anyone else having fun and have twisted into a righteous cause.

You notice what you want to notice, all from a safe distance. You also have an unhealthy relationship with my post history. The only thing I can be bothered to commit to memory from yours is "parse-hole".

I don't know what you're talking about with weapon coffers. I was never against that.
For repairs, I didn't want to spend my stash. That was all.

I've commented on ARR. I've stopped at the books. I did HW once. It was okay. I haven't progressed Stormblood past a certain point. I say address it all or don't address it at all. In the end, I see it all as a lost cause and move on with my life and it's really not all that horrible. If you make the choice to run over a dozen relics, that's on you. You understand and accept the consequences of that. Spare me the hyperbole. You can cry for months and months waiting for a response or you can just get it done before they ever consider it.

btw, I'm arguing in favor of adding bonus savage gear at the end of one set. Stop this bullshit. If you really want to derail this with some ridiculous argument over someone, go bother someone else. I'm not participating in this.

[TaleraRistain]

I've commented on ARR. I've stopped at the books.

Wait. You chickened out at the ARR books and you're going to come on here trying to preach about "some work is to be expected"?

[Deveryn]

Wait. You chickened out at the ARR books and you're going to come on here trying to preach about "some work is to be expected"?

I lost interest. That shit is boring, especially waiting on FATEs to pop. I'd do DR all over again because it's actually engaging.