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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerlilley View Post
    Are you the guy we spent about 4 pages trying to explain geography to? The ping for oce players on EU and vice versa is completely unplayable. This is not a option.

    JP is the obvious solution but they don't want to mix. NA is a logical solution.
    Nope that wasn't me, you must have gotten the wrong person.

    Regardless, I don't really have a preference to either having cross data center travel to NA or EU. I only suggested EU because it is the least populated out of the 3 existing ones hence a more likely chance should SE enable cross DC travel for OCE.

    I think the lag issues aren't as bad as perceived and given a choice, I would take having a little bit of lag over playing in a data center that is extremely inactive outside of a couple prime hours, which makes it even less attractive even for SEA players given that they usually are behind OCE timezones as well.
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    @Liana: FYI pingtest using WTFAST: Start point::

    Sydney Australia to:

    JP Kujata 130 ms.

    US Zalera 170 ms.

    EU Phantom 306 ms. - DeNada, DC travel to EU is..not a good outcome.

    Result:

    JP vs NA 40 ms difference. DC travel OCE - US is viable HOWEVER the vpn / gpn is an additional $10 USD / per month

    Yeah, not the best result.
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 11-01-2022 at 09:33 PM.

  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    @Liana: FYI pingtest using WTFAST: Start point::

    Sydney Australia to:

    JP Kujata 130 ms.

    US Zalera 170 ms.

    EU Phantom 306 ms. - DeNada, DC travel to EU is..not a good outcome.

    Result:

    JP vs NA 40 ms difference. DC travel OCE - US is viable HOWEVER the vpn / gpn is an additional $10 USD / per month

    Yeah, not the best result.
    I might just be really stoned or really tired right now but why do you need a VPN?

    All I can really speak on is my own experience and I'm able to do content with 0 lag. Maybe I just have really good internet but yeah.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 11-01-2022 at 09:38 PM.

  4. #64
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    Tiger Lilia
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeNada View Post
    Nope that wasn't me, you must have gotten the wrong person.

    Regardless, I don't really have a preference to either having cross data center travel to NA or EU. I only suggested EU because it is the least populated out of the 3 existing ones hence a more likely chance should SE enable cross DC travel for OCE.

    I think the lag issues aren't as bad as perceived and given a choice, I would take having a little bit of lag over playing in a data center that is extremely inactive outside of a couple prime hours, which makes it even less attractive even for SEA players given that they usually are behind OCE timezones as well.
    It is not a "little bit" of lag. Our British raid member attempted a character on OCE and was easily over 300ms. It was completely unplayable. Us kiwis going to EU is the same, actually worse. I can't believe this is the second time I'm having this converstation of how OCE and EU are completely polar opposite sides of the world and are not comparative to being an American that sits in the middle of both - but here we are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerlilley View Post
    It is not a "little bit" of lag. Our British raid member attempted a character on OCE and was easily over 300ms. It was completely unplayable. Us kiwis going to EU is the same, actually worse. I can't believe this is the second time I'm having this converstation of how OCE and EU are completely polar opposite sides of the world and are not comparative to being an American that sits in the middle of both - but here we are.
    Let me point out that all Americans route through one place and if you do not live on our west coast we can get some crap ping even on NA servers. For me playing on OCE over 400 ping was not unusual. It is why I am moving off.

    Edit for clarity: I live in NA
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrany View Post
    Let me point out that all Americans route through one place and if you do not live on our west coast we can get some crap ping even on NA servers. For me playing on OCE over 400 ping was not unusual. It is why I am moving off.
    I have no idea what this has to do with linking OCE with EU. Nor do I understand why every OCE thread has NA weighing in about how their ping "is fine to EU" or not fine to OCE or whatever. You're not us.

    This is the exact kind of random tangent that makes trying to give feedback on these forums so frustrating.
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    Last edited by Tigerlilley; 11-01-2022 at 09:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerlilley View Post
    I have no idea what this has to do with linking OCE with EU.
    We look like we are in the middle of things but we are not necessarily because of the crap system all NA traffic is routed through for this game on the West Coast. When you say we sit in the middle and it is not comparative you have no clue how comparative ping times wise it really can be.
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    I might just be really stoned or really tired right now but why do you need a VPN?
    Better and smoother gameplay, trust me US servers and no vpn is not fun. it cuts down lag.
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrany View Post
    We look like we are in the middle of things but we are not necessarily because of the crap system all NA traffic is routed through for this game on the West Coast. When you say we sit in the middle and it is not comparative you have no clue how comparative ping times wise it really can be.
    So your argument is that an American pinging to EU and OCE is comparative to OCE pinging to EU?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerlilley View Post
    I have no idea what this has to do with linking OCE with EU. Nor do I understand why every OCE thread has NA weighing in about how their ping "is fine to EU" or not fine to OCE or whatever. You're not us.

    This is the exact kind of random tangent that makes trying to give feedback on these forums so frustrating.
    Comparisons, Tiger.

    Be nice.
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 11-02-2022 at 01:44 PM.

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