6.28 Patch Notes

[ForteNightshade]

Hey remember when Xenosys Vex literally hopped from WAR to GNB and then suddenly was clearing Heph 1? I do. Literally a case of bring the class. You are dismissed until you have something of value to post

You do realize this completely nullifies your original argument, yes? Xeno wouldn't have switched if Warrior was balanced properly. And it would be balanced properly if the devs (and people in general) stopped using subjective variables like job difficulty.

Even taken at face value, that excuse doesn't hold up. Pretty much every experienced tank player would rank Paladin as the most difficult tank to optimize. Hence the "spreadsheet tank" memes. Meanwhile, a good amount of players consider Dark Knight very similar to Warrior. So by that logic, Dark Knight should be among the weakest tanks. Instead, it's the strongest in nearly every category. It's almost like job difficulty is, yet again, entirely subjective and a very poor metric to use.

Put another way. Most players will play their preferred job regardless of whether an easier achieves comparable damage. Gunbreaker players aren't going to suddenly become Warrior mains if the latter was buffed to match it. Look no further than White Mage, a job which has always been ranked below Astro in the meta scene yet is always more popular. This only changes if the separation becomes too high.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Darn! I was meme'ing for weeks that MCH will get +10p to their actions but instead they're given +20p, I've missed the mark Need to train my psychic better another time.

Also, I think at this point I'm starting to reading into the lines a bit too much... but I can shake off the odd feeling when reading SGE's balance overview, specifically the following explanation phrase: "To ensure all sages felt the benefits of these changes, regardless of playstyle--"

Other than that... oh yeah. They're making some pieces dyeable. I hope this will extend to other undyeable pieces like those pieces from ARR, HW, and StB Alliance Raids, Woad set, Valkyrie set, Plague Doctor, Arhat, etc etc... you name it!

[Iscah]

Other than that... oh yeah. They're making some pieces dyeable. I hope this will extend to other undyeable pieces like those pieces from ARR, HW, and StB Alliance Raids, Woad set, Valkyrie set, Plague Doctor, Arhat, etc etc... you name it!

Valkyrie sets! The healer top needs dye badly. What were they thinking with the brown-and-violet colour scheme there?

[hagare]

Hey remember when Xenosys Vex literally hopped from WAR to GNB and then suddenly was clearing Heph 1? I do. Literally a case of bring the class. You are dismissed until you have something of value to post

so you agree that all jobs should be working at a similar level of performance no matter how they play.

[Momo_Kozuki]

WHM's Miracle of Nature gets nerfed again in pvp.


How about make Miracle of Nature an 5m range AoE next? High risk, high gain as a gap-closer disabler.


Also more dyeable low-level sets are cool. Hope they will do Shisui set next.

[FireMage]

so you agree that all jobs should be working at a similar level of performance no matter how they play.

I see you chose not to read anything following like the prior t-cup. What is with the rampant illiteracy on here?

[hagare]

I see you chose not to read anything following like the prior t-cup. What is with the rampant illiteracy on here?

because the important part is you admitting that jobs should be buffed so they perform at a similar level so every job is viable.
Instead of what you said, Literally a case of bring the class.
Thank you for being such a contrarian that you went against your first point.
see ya later, derplander

[Jettinson]

Monk's PvP Earth Reply needs to be less janky, manually activating where there is lots of delays in PvP feels dreadful, I do not think having 5 seconds shorter is the right solution...

Dyable dungeon gear is nice although that is due to Tactics Ogre, waiting for other gears like Valkyrie and Fillibuster/Royal Volunteer sets for example.

But it is good news they do not need to make a new gear for these kind of changes!

[FireMage]

because the important part is you admitting that jobs should be buffed so they perform at a similar level so every job is viable.
Instead of what you said, Literally a case of bring the class.
Thank you for being such a contrarian that you went against your first point.
see ya later, derplander

Except that I didn't. There's a distinct difference between a permissible gap, and inbalance. And you clearly lack the education to tell the difference

You really should learn to properly read instead of trying to insult the intelligence of your betters

[hagare]

You really should learn to properly read instead of trying to insult the intelligence of your betters

so to you a literal case of bring the class is a permissible gap.
A case where one class is replaced by another because it can't clear is a permissible gap?