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    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Kaiten's still not coming back. All is well.
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    Libby9's Avatar
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    Silke Silke
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon View Post
    No PvE Dancer buffs? I thought the Phys Ranged jobs were getting buffed because of the whole 'ranged tax' thing, surely that applies to Dancer too?
    Why would the easiest job in the game get a buff?
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    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Firemage Li
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Libby9 View Post
    Why would the easiest job in the game get a buff?
    What are you talking about? SMN just got a bunch of buffs?
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    Nia Niyah
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    Hyperion
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Libby9 View Post
    Why would the easiest job in the game get a buff?
    Ease of play should have absolutely nothing to do with job balance.
    Especially when every job has been made incredibly easy.
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    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Firemage Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    Ease of play should have absolutely nothing to do with job balance.
    It has to in order to be actually balanced
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    Nia Niyah
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    It has to in order to be actually balanced
    Who asked for summoner to be dumbed down? should everyone who played pre-EW summoner be punished with the lwoest damage in the game because they now play the "easiest" job?
    No. players should not be punished for bad dev decisions, once again, ease of play should not affect job balance
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    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Firemage Li
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    Who asked for summoner to be dumbed down? should everyone who played pre-EW summoner be punished with the lwoest damage in the game because they now play the "easiest" job?
    No. players should not be punished for bad dev decisions, once again, ease of play should not affect job balance
    This is what we in the know refer to as a non point. It doesn't matter if anyone asked for it or not, what matters is what IS. Ease of play MUST affect Job balance, otherwise you are penalizing skill
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    Rithris Amaya
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 100
    We really don't know how impactful these changes are going to be so generally this is more speculation.

    Phys Ranged:
    It doesn't look like enough to me but it's something I guess, We will see later down the line how certain jobs perform
    "when reviewing the balance of dancer in relation to other physical ranged DPS jobs, we decided it would not require such adjustments."
    Seems like they consider dancer the bar for damage output they want phys ranged which if you ask me dancer doesn't even do enough total damage, compared to the melee dps, I don't think dancer nor phys ranged should be on par with melee but they shouldn't be far off, Bards and machinists changes look very lacking to me... I really dont think Dancers damage is the bar for phys ranged.

    For casters:
    Smn/rdm always very different to discuss compared to other jobs, hopefully they're ahead a bit, although I kinda want Red mage to be ahead of smn just because RDM generally struggles with less mobility, then again I don't know yet. BLM Hopefully now at least competes with melee dps damage, I generally think casters got ok changes.

    Warrior(Tank):
    I guess they're waiting on PLD's general changes in 6.3, shame as I feel like they could have done with a little boost but makes sense, I really hope they make PLD's general kit just better right now theirs no reason to bring a PLD because DRK/GNB outshine it in tanking ability and damage output, that ontop of being clunky and complex with no reward kinda stings (although its rotation is actually very fun so I'm worried about any changes), Warrior likely needs more then what it's been given, I don't really want it ahead of PLD... guess we will see. I don't know In general about warrior changes, but I believe they're good, Personally I think they need to generally change tanks overall in 7.0 the current tank job design is somewhat of a mess.

    Can't say I'm too happy with the changes but they're good changes, my problem is they don't look to be enough.
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    Last edited by Rithy255; 11-01-2022 at 01:13 PM.

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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    We really don't know how impactful these changes are going to be so generally this is more speculation.
    Current estimations from Balance are as followed:

    Warrior: 1.25%
    Reaper: 2.3%
    Sage: 1.4%
    Bard: 0.7-1%
    Machinist: 3%
    Red Mage: 1.8-2%
    Summoner: 1.7%
    Black Mage: 1.5%

    Overall, they will have very little impact on the current landscape. Not to say they aren't good buffs but they won't shake anything up. Reaper being the sole exception. It's buffs are actually fairly substantial, and may allow it to crack into the Melee meta again. As for the remaining jobs, this doesn't move the needle. Red Mage will be noticeably behind, Warrior may pull ahead of Paladin but both will be outclassed by Dark Knight and Summoner, the Prange are all still very weak as is Sage.
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    Duskane's Avatar
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    I'm fairly certain they said "we will reconsider how we balance range from now on"
    I don't think that was including 6.28 tho

    WAR just gonna get potency fluff but what it really needs in damage buff on IR
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