Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
Don't try to call me on strawman then pull the same shit. I never said anything about it being too much. Few people do in this YPYT argument. It's about making more work for the healer and tank. This is about non-tanks sprinting out of the gate to pick things up, when the best approach for the tank is to actually pop sprint just ahead of the mobs to gather everything and space out the damage and get everything situated for the DPS.

DPS should worry less about pulling mobs / rushing the party along and think more about actually getting a decent burst off on ALL the mobs when the tank has them all together.
I posted no strawman. At best I described what melees are capable of, at worst I described what I pulled off as a melee without causing anyone worries / when my tank imploded from standing in orange AOEs. The fact is there is no danger involved with a DPS pulling extra.

I called you out for a strawman argument because you tried to use "staying in Leylines despite dying" equivalence/projection, which is taking it from "DPS pulling extra into the tank" to "DPS not dodging the orange AOE and dying for it" - one insinuates that you actually do something about not dying, the other one clearly is not.

Either way, to meet in a healthy middle - I believe it is the tank's job to verbally explain if they are anxious and will tell people that they will pull less. The most common practice in non-verbal parties is wall-to-wall and cycling your cooldowns, so if you want to be non-standard, speak up. If people THEN go against the grain and force more on the tank, then we can actually start thinking about what needs to be done:

1.) Tank leaves / gets removed because they don't want to handle that pace forced upon them
2.) DPS/Healer leaves / gets removed because they don't want to handle the pace that the tank is putting up for them
3.) Everyone makes up and takes it as a challenge/chance to improve

Either way, YPYT is as stupid as going against the playstyle of the majority in the party.