Venue/club advertisements have become a massive nuisance

[Axious]

I started playing Ffxiv during beta testing and took a break after 3.5 patch. Returning around 5.5 patch.

I generally do not understand why there are night clubs or venues. Everywhere. How did they become so popular?

I mostly remember PF as savage, dungeons, tome farming, speed running, fc recruiting, groups selling content and minuscule RP if not any.

[Renalt]

I started playing Ffxiv during beta testing and took a break after 3.5 patch. Returning around 5.5 patch.

I generally do not understand why there are night clubs or venues. Everywhere. How did they become so popular?

I mostly remember PF as savage, dungeons, tome farming, speed running, fc recruiting, groups selling content and minuscule RP if not any.

They exploded when Covid hit. With the lockdowns people found a way to simulate going out to a club/cafe/library/etc. A good idea considering the time but now it's just...odd. People tend to go and AFK or speak in tells so it's just...weird.

[PirateRyanG]

I started playing Ffxiv during beta testing and took a break after 3.5 patch. Returning around 5.5 patch.

I generally do not understand why there are night clubs or venues. Everywhere. How did they become so popular?

I mostly remember PF as savage, dungeons, tome farming, speed running, fc recruiting, groups selling content and minuscule RP if not any.

Because COVID happened. They exploded in popularity because people were loving the social contact.

A lot of people here are misinformed about nightclubs, anyway. They seem to think it is a ton of people just AFKing. It isn't. I have had plenty of discussions in the night clubs that I have visited. It all happens in tells and party chat, though. Some stuff happens in say (I see that mostly in cafes), but not all.

[LianaThorne]

Because COVID happened. They exploded in popularity because people were loving the social contact.

A lot of people here are misinformed about nightclubs, anyway. They seem to think it is a ton of people just AFKing. It isn't. I have had plenty of discussions in the night clubs that I have visited. It all happens in tells and party chat, though. Some stuff happens in say (I see that mostly in cafes), but not all.

If everyone is talking in tells and party chat you can't blame anyone for thinking the place is a bunch of people afking. Maybe have some more public conversations.....like you know....actually RP so other people can join in?

Or are the convos too private/nsfw based to have in say chat?

[Saraide]

If everyone is talking in tells and party chat you can't blame anyone for thinking the place is a bunch of people afking. Maybe have some more public conversations.....like you know....actually RP so other people can join in?

Or are the convos too private/nsfw based to have in say chat?

I love the instant suspicion in that post.

[LianaThorne]

I love the instant suspicion in that post.

I'm sure it is the case for some. *shrug*

[PirateRyanG]

If everyone is talking in tells and party chat you can't blame anyone for thinking the place is a bunch of people afking. Maybe have some more public conversations.....like you know....actually RP so other people can join in?

Or are the convos too private/nsfw based to have in say chat?

I haven't had an NSFW conversation in FF14.

However, the chats I have had in night clubs has been to ensure that the chat history doesn't get clogged up. Hard to keep track of stuff if everybody is talking in /say.

I have walked to small corners of clubs with a couple of people where say is being used as it is a closed conversation, but it would be a mess if everybody in the main areas was using say.

[LianaThorne]

I haven't had an NSFW conversation in FF14.

However, the chats I have had in night clubs has been to ensure that the chat history doesn't get clogged up. Hard to keep track of stuff if everybody is talking in /say.

I have walked to small corners of clubs with a couple of people where say is being used as it is a closed conversation, but it would be a mess if everybody in the main areas was using say.

I have no idea what places you're visiting but having convos in say is pretty standard in the venues I've visited (granted I only go to lounges or cafes or non-club venues) and in the one I helped run for a few months a while back. I would think having public convos is the norm because if you're trying to roleplay as a person going to a club, do you text the person sitting next to you to have a conversation or do you just...talk to them publically?

Fair enough if it's more convenient but doesn't change the appearance of clubs being nothing but afk hubs and money funnels for owners if no one is publically talking while charging gil to do anything.

[PirateRyanG]

I have no idea what places you're visiting but having convos in say is pretty standard in the venues I've visited (granted I only go to lounges or cafes or non-club venues) and in the one I helped run for a few months a while back. I would think having public convos is the norm because if you're trying to roleplay as a person going to a club, do you text the person sitting next to you to have a conversation or do you just...talk to them publically?

Fair enough if it's more convenient but doesn't change the appearance of clubs being nothing but afk hubs and money funnels for owners if no one is publically talking while charging gil to do anything.

Could be a difference between NA and EU server culture, I guess.

I have only ever had full 'say' conversations in cafes with very few people in them. There is a nice on that I frequent that has around 2-3 people in at a time, plus a staff member. Say is fine there.

[Illmaeran]

Or are the convos too private/nsfw based to have in say chat?

Those exist, yes. However, it's also considered good manners to use /tell /party to avoid blowing up peoples' chat logs with /say. All it takes is a couple of people in the same room using /say to wreak havoc on everyone else's chat. Imagine a space with 50 people all using /say at once; no conversations would be possible.


<edit to add thoughts after reading through the rest of the thread>
I run two venues, one that's small where we normally use /say when hanging out with a fair mix of visitors using private chat as well. If I'm having an actual RP session with someone I normally use private channels since they're color coded which makes it easier to keep track of it. At my larger one, a restaurant, I encourage people to use /tell or /party as it can get pretty full ending up the the scenario I described above. When there aren't many people visiting and/or it's a group of people who came in together and nobody else is there, I let them know /say's just fine until more people show up.

Generally, at small venues like cafes, apartment-sized bars, etc you'll get a greater number of people using /say since the number of visitors is typically low and people often want to just hang out and chat with folks.