Archon Tattoo as a Reward

[Gemina]

I mean, sure, I guess. At this point though, it would be like Naruto being given the rank of Jonin at the end of Shippuden.

[RyuDragnier]

Kinda diminishes the effort the Scions and others had to go through to get one. It would be like saving a doctor and you're given a medical degree.

...we've been playing the same story, right?

By the end of 6.0, assuming you've done every bit of side content in the game, the WoL is:

- a master of all jobs to where we teach them to others at this point
- a master of all crafting professions
- a master of all gathering professions
- have created our own job (MCH)
- explored enough Allagan ruins to where we could easily be considered an expert on it
- have shard hopped
- have jumped to the past giving us exclusive knowledge of a past civilization
- have gone to the end of the universe and back giving us exclusive knowledge of its form and of other civilizations of planets
- have literally destroyed every primal we've come across in existence
- have entered the depths of the aetherial sea

At this point not being an Archon is an INSULT to the other Archons, basically saying we're not good enough despite all of those achievements...so how are they good enough?

[DPZ2]

...we've been playing the same story, right?

By the end of 6.0, assuming you've done every bit of side content in the game, the WoL is:

Followed by a very long list indeed. If the Archons became Archons because of things like this, I would agree. The way they became Archons, however, is (1) attend the Studium in Sharlayan for a number of years (2) be academically brilliant (3) go beyond brilliance and contribute to general knowledge in a way that is sure to attract attention from other scholars (4) participate in an event that only 12 scholars (at one point) could achieve.

Note that neither of the Twins, or their father, or the Leaders of Sharlayan have achieved that goal. Even Krile does not have that particular designation (at least I don't have a single image of her with the tattoo).

Becoming an Archon is a goal for academics. It holds no privilege in the greater world. It is not awarded to those who haven't put in their time as scholars. It is awarded to extremely few scholars in any generation.

We are, indeed, Warriors of Light. That doesn't mean we could exist in the (relatively) cut-throat world of Academia.

Give us a "Warrior of Light/Darkness" tattoo for all of those wonderful things you've mentioned, but not a single one of those has any real use in Academia, unless you plan on becoming the Professor of Light.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Followed by a very long list indeed. If the Archons became Archons because of things like this, I would agree. The way they became Archons, however, is (1) attend the Studium in Sharlayan for a number of years

Y'shtola explicitly never attended the Studium and still got her Mark. I don't believe it was ever stated that Thancred or Yda (the real Yda, not Lyse) attended, either, and they have (or had) Marks.

A sidequest in Old Sharlayan spells out that Archons earn their Marks from a special trial in the city. The Studium is one way to earn the right to take the trial, but clearly it's not the only one.

[DPZ2]

Y'shtola explicitly never attended the Studium and still got her Mark. I don't believe it was ever stated that Thancred or Yda (the real Yda, not Lyse) attended, either, and they have (or had) Marks.

A sidequest in Old Sharlayan spells out that Archons earn their Marks from a special trial in the city. The Studium is one way to earn the right to take the trial, but clearly it's not the only one.

I just played through that particular sidequest in the last week (the benefit and curse of having alts). The quest's name is Scholarly Perspective. The text that lays out the qualifications required are:

Those who have acquired mastery over specialized disciplines, or whose deeds have led to significant advances in their chosen field, are invited to enter said chamber and receive the title of “Archon.” We place great value on the pursuit of knowledge, and thus the Archons are held in especially high regard. As the embodiment of our ideals, they are permitted to browse the forbidden archives, and have ever stood at the center of our nation's greatest achievements.

[RyuDragnier]

So what you're saying is, we need an invitation. Luckily we know at least 1 member of the Forum who'd be willing to extend it.

[DPZ2]

So what you're saying is, we need an invitation. Luckily we know at least 1 member of the Forum who'd be willing to extend it.

Alas, we are not Sharlayan. Which member are you considering here? We know a number of them, and we have yet to be inundated with pleas to become an Archon.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Considering the number of times we've delved into forgotten ruins, uncovered time-lost secrets of ancient civilizations, stood at the forefront of armies and changed the course of nations, and a myriad of other world-saving endeavors (and that's just in the MSQ), I think it's pretty safe to say we've acquired mastery of our field of "being a Final Fantasy protagonist".

[Saraide]

Alas, we are not Sharlayan. Which member are you considering here? We know a number of them, and we have yet to be inundated with pleas to become an Archon.

Neither was thancred.

[RyuDragnier]

Alas, we are not Sharlayan. Which member are you considering here? We know a number of them, and we have yet to be inundated with pleas to become an Archon.

Montichaigne would be the one I'm thinking of. Considering how helpful he had been in the expansion and how he was part of the Studium final quest, so he knows how skilled we are.