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    Player Knot_D's Avatar
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    If someone can get banned from spamming Holy and spamming emotes, those people can get banned as well for advertising. Maybe try report them?
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    This advertisements you speak of, are they in the room with us right now?
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    Nav_Fae's Avatar
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    Mizuchi Hikaze
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    Sargatanas
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    Hot take: If you are running a for profit venue that takes any revenue wither it be real money, ingame gil, or a backdoor way to advertise your other third party affiliates such as selling art commissions, Twitch or Onlyfans, then you are no longer role playing; you are a business man. Role play is just a front for a greater means. You are providing services for financial gain. That is not role play no matter how you want to dice it. That is a business service. Providing real deals, real customer service, disputes, claims, and contracts. It's orangized business not role play. These venues have made it difficult to tell real RP FCs and businesses apart from each other and the ads are so constant that you can't find real non RP FCs among all the mess.
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    Last edited by Nav_Fae; 10-30-2022 at 08:32 PM.

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    Nav_Fae's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Most of the venues and clubs and the likes is more about finding ways to get gil from people with VIP passes and the likes as well, which should not be a thing or way to farm gil on for possible other stuff.

    And tired of hearing we got live bards and the likes as well, when it is just 1 bard using a macroplayer of the likes to play songs and his 7 bots is in synch with.

    Used to be fun when people came in, and when you ask those bards if they want to just improvise with one self... they really get into the corner and the claws comes out.
    Sad part is a number of people made it to partnership on Twitch using those playlists and bots too and now make a lot of money acting as a community influencer getting subs and botting in front of everyone with nobody caring. Easiest way to get twitch fame tbh.
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  6. #25
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    Kaoru_Nagisa's Avatar
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    Crowe Valtyr
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    While I agree, we had a thread about this already. It may be better for you to post in there, OP, with your ideas and any edits you made since, as SE is more likely to look through larger and contained threads than a bunch of small ones.
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  7. #26
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    I mean, you kinda jipped yourself since Balmung is the center for RP lol. I've long learned to tune out the shouts tho
    Was happening here on Excalibur pretty often too. It's all over. Ads from other DCs and everything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Knot_D View Post
    If someone can get banned from spamming Holy and spamming emotes, those people can get banned as well for advertising. Maybe try report them?
    We might see some action on the ones advertising outright "18+ erp", but even then, from what I understand, the venue owners are just hiring other people to do it for them in-game.
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  8. #27
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    LianaThorne's Avatar
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    Hot take: If you are running a for profit venue that takes any revenue wither it be real money, ingame gil, or a backdoor way to advertise your other third party affiliates such as selling art commissions, Twitch or Onlyfans, then you are no longer role playing; you are a business man. Role play is just a front for a greater means. You are providing services for financial gain. That is not role play no matter how you want to dice it. That is a business service. Providing real deals, real customer service, disputes, claims, and contracts. It's orangized business not role play. These venues have made it difficult to tell real RP FCs and businesses apart from each other and the ads are so constant that you can't find real non RP FCs among all the mess.
    Facts.
    It's not roleplay. It's a business.

    I wish more were honest about their intentions instead of screaming that they're "for the RP". If that's the case, then stop charging gil for services you provide and dont provide wages to your staff, the RP is supposed to be the reason to show up and being paid to RP defeats the purpose.RP is not supposed to be equivalent to a job, it's supposed to be for fun with the reward being the stories you make with others and the progress on your character.

    Like I said in a thread before, I will never view venues (especially nightclubs) as roleplay. All owners of those spaces are providing is "afk while you listen to a DJ who probably can't get gigs irl while serving overpriced drinks and trying to push escorts/dancers onto desperate patrons." It's gross.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 10-30-2022 at 10:12 PM.

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    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Facts.
    It's not roleplay. It's a business.

    I wish more were honest about their intentions instead of screaming that they're "for the RP". If that's the case, then stop charging gil for services you provide and dont provide wages to your staff, the RP is supposed to be the reason to show up and being paid to RP defeats the purpose.RP is not supposed to be equivalent to a job, it's supposed to be for fun with the reward being the stories you make with others and the progress on your character.

    Like I said in a thread before, I will never view venues (especially nightclubs) as roleplay. All owners of those spaces are providing is "afk while you listen to a DJ who probably can't get gigs irl while serving overpriced drinks and trying to push escorts/dancers onto desperate patrons." It's gross.
    Probably one of the best takes about venue I've read on this forum tbh, it's all about the money, there is no roleplay involved, Catwalk on EU is a very good example of that, afking with bees knees for hours on end with afk staff dancing as well while they get paid and also sell "individual" services such as private shows and ERP, dont see how it's RP at this point
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  10. #29
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    Tira Mu
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    Raiden
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I think a venue advertising section and actioning the ads as spam and warning/suspending might help.

    PF should be for parties, and shout should be for call outs (ie marks), crafting requests, asking for help, and recruitment.
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    Sturm Churro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiramu View Post
    I think a venue advertising section and actioning the ads as spam and warning/suspending might help.

    PF should be for parties, and shout should be for call outs (ie marks), crafting requests, asking for help, and recruitment.
    Account action is really the only thing that would stifle it. They will advertise regardless of there being specific sections anywhere or not. Whatever will get more potential eyes on the ad, means more potential gil.
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