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    The free trial is actually one of the few AMAZING bright spots for XIV, imo. I think they did a good jo with it.

    As for XIV.....It is a boring mmo for the most part. Sub-par combat system, terrible job system, uninteresting quest.

    HOWEVER, I am a FF fan, so I play it from time to time.

    Megaman X5 is terrible, but I play it every other month it seems.......Why? because I am a Mega Man X fan lol......

    Sonic 06 is awful....but every Sonic fan plays it......Why? You guessed it....

    Eventually, the "Good reviews" and fad of XIV will wear off and like WoW, casual people will start to see it for what it really is and leave (if they already are not). Then, the devs will need to really use some resources to improve the game, or move on......

    XVI seems like more of the same.......XVII will be the one, imo.......just my opinion.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    These people may fool new players, but they don't fool us - This wasn't always about MSQ, and we NEVER called it an 'RPGMMO', that's a new term you all made up and new players ran with after Shadowbringers, and I'm pretty sure it was Jesse Cox that flipped it. I don't condone it's use.
    This is a new conspiracy theory about Jesse Cox that made me spew my coffee out. No sorry Jesse Cox didn't cook this whole thing up. MMORPG's have been around since it's conception in 1996. One of the first of this genre, was a game called "Meridian 59".

    Some examples of an MMORPG are: Anarchy Online, Black Desert Online, EverQuest, Final Fantasy XIV, Guild Wars, Rift, Runescape, Ultima Online, and World of Warcraft etc...

    MMO can be anything from a Battle Royale action title, FPS, a real-time strategy game, or even a new type of interactive experience that defies genres.

    And who is this " THESE PEOPLE and WE and US? Your opinion is your opinion and people have different opinions on what they find enjoyable in FFxiv.

    It doesn't bother me in the least that people skip story or not, as long as they can play their job. That to me is what ARR is mostly there for. To teach the new player. Though I don't like the fetch quest reaching into the later expansions, but that's just me, and I agree to it being filler. I think maybe what the devs are trying to do is put you into the next area of a certain zone for story progression. I think there is a better way of doing that part of it too.

    Overall people have their favorite msq expansions and their least favorites. Then some could care less about the msq all together, that just how it is and will be. Yes one day XIV will die down, but I don't think we fully know what the root cause will be just yet. Only guesses of what it could be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arazehl View Post
    This is a new conspiracy theory about Jesse Cox that made me spew my coffee out. No sorry Jesse Cox didn't cook this whole thing up. MMORPG's have been around since it's conception in 1996. One of the first of this genre, was a game called "Meridian 59".
    What? No - Do you live under a rock? That's not what I was saying, maybe you misunderstand this whole thing, and hopefully you've ignored it all the past 2 years. I'd be happy that you did, because it's exhausting. lol

    'RPGMMO' vs 'MMORPG' - It's the new fad to call FFXIV an 'RPGMMO' and ignore the MMO portion while strictly focusing on the MSQ. "No content? You did MSQ right? Yoshi said you can unsub and come back later." He's made videos and tweeted about this, it's sparked the whole thing.

    https://twitter.com/jessecox/status/1331490039239376903

    I almost find it insulting that you actually thought I didn't know what an 'MMORPG' was while saying I've been subbed to one for 11 years. To the point where you tried to educate me, mostly just hilarious though. lol
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    Last edited by R041; 10-28-2022 at 08:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    What? No - Do you live under a rock? That's not what I was saying, maybe you misunderstand this whole thing, and hopefully you've ignored it all the past 2 years. I'd be happy that you did, because it's exhausting. lol

    'RPGMMO' vs 'MMORPG' - It's the new fad to call FFXIV an 'RPGMMO' and ignore the MMO portion while strictly focusing on the MSQ. "No content? You did MSQ right? Yoshi said you can unsub and come back later." He's made videos and tweeted about this, it's sparked the whole thing.

    https://twitter.com/jessecox/status/1331490039239376903
    Ah I see. Yes I was a bit confused. Never heard of RPGMMO. Is it like saying it's an RPG first before an MMO? That is very confusing in fact. Thanks for the clarification. I'll go read up on Twitter now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arazehl View Post
    Ah I see. Yes I was a bit confused. Never heard of RPGMMO. Is it like saying it's an RPG first before an MMO? That is very confusing in fact. Thanks for the clarification. I'll go watch the stream now.
    Okay phew. Yeah, I'm just saying it's a weird fad to put FFXIV in this new corner of MMO's called 'RPGMMO' - It's weird, and it really just discourages players from even playing the MMO portion of it. Sorry if I sounded rude. You good. lol
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    Restrictions should be the least of your worries when you get the base game and its first expansion beginning to end free.
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    OP, not sure if you have played other free trials in other games, but the entire point is to make so you want the improved experience of purchase. FFxiv is fairly benign, and most of its restrictions are meant to combat RMT

    I have seen where you get notified from every quest what you COULD have received in terms of experience, money or items. limited quest availability in others. constant pressure to buy buy buy...

    overall, FFxiv is pretty easy with their trial. you can talk, just in say, cant send tells. someone that you know needs to subbed to form groups. perfect? nope, not at all, but can thank the RMT people usually for restrictions on free trials...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TMW001 View Post
    Restrictions should be the least of your worries when you get the base game and its first expansion beginning to end free.
    To be fair Ive tried the trial before when I was waiting on my account recovery and its definitely heavy enough to turn away new players.
    The idea is to play with friends and you cant even send tells or pt invites.
    Kills RMT sure, but also bad experience with the trial
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    I don't condone it's use.
    yeah, okay, sure.
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    It's not really an RPGMMO. It's just that it's an actual MMORPG instead of just an MMO.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
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