We anticipate that even with this update, third parties will continue

[DPZ2]

Thank you white knight #457852. Also the meme is very applicable for SE.

You're welcome, World of Warcraft shill-of-the-week.

[Stormpeaks]

You're welcome, World of Warcraft shill-of-the-week.

Are you good in your head ? Lmao, in what world am I a world of warcraft shill ?

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

Are you good in your head ? Lmao, in what world am I a world of warcraft shill ?

WoW is the go-to scapegoat.

Which is funny, considering that - especially now, having gotten into WoW thanks to a friend's recommendation - it's abundantly clear Yoshida 'saved' 1.0 by literally just copy-pasting a ton of things WoW did. Beyond simple "taking inspiration", just full on yanking out WoW systems (and somehow making them worse more often than not). This entire game was genuinely built as an attempted WoW clone in a FF skin, so people bringing WoW up as the big bad evil just makes me laugh nowadays.

[Jojoya]

WoW is the go-to scapegoat.

Which is funny, considering that - especially now, having gotten into WoW thanks to a friend's recommendation - it's abundantly clear Yoshida 'saved' 1.0 by literally just copy-pasting a ton of things WoW did. Beyond simple "taking inspiration", just full on yanking out WoW systems (and somehow making them worse more often than not). This entire game was genuinely built as an attempted WoW clone in a FF skin, so people bringing WoW up as the big bad evil just makes me laugh nowadays.

Except it's not an outright WoW clone. There are significant differences between FFXIV and the WoW of 2012 (when FFXIV 1.0 was being burned down to be rebuilt into ARR).

Probably the most clonelike part would be tomestones = Valor Points/Justice Points. Valor Points would be the current Causality. Justice Points would be the current Astronomy. And I'm honestly glad they did it. I like knowing that even if I'm not getting lucky from the loot chests, I will be able to buy an item of my choice to fill in what I feel is my most pressing gear need.

WoW got rid of Justice Points in MoP, and phased out Valor Points over the course of that expansion to move into an entirely RNG based gearing system (since crafted and rep gear was useless). And players have hated it. Never knowing if they'll get what they need, losing their raid spots because they didn't get the right trinket drop but someone else did.

I know a lot of players find this gearing system boring but at least it means you don't have to worry about losing your raid spot because of simple RNG.

[DPZ2]

Are you good in your head ? Lmao, in what world am I a world of warcraft shill ?

Your handle on this forum is literally "Storm Peaks".

You're as much a Warcraft Shill as I am a White Knight.

[Stormpeaks]

Your handle on this forum is literally "Storm Peaks".

You're as much a Warcraft Shill as I am a White Knight.

Yes my nickname on the forums means I shill for world of warcraft.

To the ignore list you go, good riddance

[kpxmanifesto]

Yes my nickname on the forums means I shill for world of warcraft.

To the ignore list you go, good riddance

That's what MMO tribalism will do to a person, lmao. Just because you dared to say something negative about FFXIV, you're undeniably a hardcore supporter of a competing video game. You can't expect to reason with a person who thinks like that.

[Stormpeaks]

That's what MMO tribalism will do to a person, lmao. Just because you dared to say something negative about FFXIV, you're undeniably a hardcore supporter of a competing video game. You can't expect to reason with a person who thinks like that.

Just aint worth the time

[DPZ2]

Just because you dared to say something negative about FFXIV

By "something negative" are you referencing "White Knight", or "Small Indie Company", or anything to do with what I've actually posted when it wasn't an exasperated call to stop using "Small Indie Company" because that particular phrase has never been true, and it's now gotten so old it's eligible for Social Security?

[Padudu]

By "something negative" are you referencing "White Knight", or "Small Indie Company", or anything to do with what I've actually posted when it wasn't an exasperated call to stop using "Small Indie Company" because that particular phrase has never been true, and it's now gotten so old it's eligible for Social Security?

Listen man, YoshiP won't give you the headpats you want for defending precious multi-billionaire company from being called a "small indie company" for the umpteenth time.

They're both just trolling stormpeaks. I've had them on ignore for quite some time, lmao. No point in feeding the trolls.

wdym, I love inciting people, I'm good at it.