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    Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
    I don't know exactly what OP had in mind regarding bringing factions into ffxiv, but if for the sake of shaking things up and forcing the devs to innovate, I'm all for it. Maybe they can copy ESO system by having one region that allow pvp.
    How is this different from the Grand Companies and Carteneau Flats? Three factions, one region for contest. I suppose they could make it open PvP, but to what end? Does anyone truly believe PvP players enjoy getting ganked continuously while they level up?

    Even ESO's PvP had PvE elements. The area was totally dominated by the most populous faction on any given server. Loads of fun. Not.
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    Sidurgu Dazkar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    How is this different from the Grand Companies and Carteneau Flats? Three factions, one region for contest. I suppose they could make it open PvP, but to what end? Does anyone truly believe PvP players enjoy getting ganked continuously while they level up?

    Even ESO's PvP had PvE elements. The area was totally dominated by the most populous faction on any given server. Loads of fun. Not.
    Before i quit i tried esos pvp. Didn't like it at all since my faction sucked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidurgu-12 View Post
    Before i quit i tried esos pvp. Didn't like it at all since my faction sucked.
    Yeah, that's not even a problem you had to leave FFXIV to see: three-sided PvP is terrible when it's actually tied to player-selected faction, because there is literally no chance of all three factions being of equal strength. In my experience you'll usually have one with the raw population win, one with less people but more of them being really into PvP, and one being the victim of a curbstomp because they had neither.

    Before they mandated freelancing in Frontlines that was also true there; every match boiled down to Adder Vs. Maelstrom, with the Flames having no chance bar extreme luck on the later-night 8v8v8s. I'm not even entirely sure why that started, but once that population dynamic gets realized, it becomes self-fulfilling: the Flames never won, so people serious about winning never joined the Flames, so the Flames never had the people to win.

    Even two-side PvP often has that problem, but at least fixing that is a much simpler prospect.
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