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    Player SassyAssassin's Avatar
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    Couldn’t care less. If anything Im happy gifts get directly delivered to inboxes now, they will implement something soon to allow mount gifting again as well.
    Other ways you can gift mounts to people until then is by buying them a steam card, paypal transfer etc etc. If you don’t trust your friends to use the money to buy the mount then consider who you’re giving gifts to in the first place. And FCs can gift marketboard mounts or whatever. Its not an apocalyptic situation.
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    Last edited by SassyAssassin; 10-27-2022 at 09:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyAssassin View Post
    Couldn’t care less. If anything Im happy gifts get directly delivered to inboxes now, they will implement something soon to allow mount gifting again as well.
    Other ways you can gift mounts to people until then is by buying them a steam card, paypal transfer etc etc. If you don’t trust your friends to use the money to buy the mount then consider who you’re giving gifts to in the first place. And FCs can gift marketboard mounts or whatever. Its not an apocalyptic situation.
    Nothing screams a surprise more than giving the person the money so they can buy the surprise themselves.

    Thank god we have you with this amazing take.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Where did that person whine exactly? Can't say I saw any of that in their post
    That reading thing coming up again, I see.
    I didn't say 'whining'... I said whinging...

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    gerund or present participle: whinging
    complain persistently and in a peevish or irritating way.
    "stop whinging and get on with it!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Nothing screams a surprise more than giving the person the money so they can buy the surprise themselves.

    Thank god we have you with this amazing take.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AshDidit View Post
    That reading thing coming up again, I see.
    I didn't say 'whining'... I said whinging...

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    complain persistently and in a peevish or irritating way.
    "stop whinging and get on with it!"
    So you opt to say I didn't read when in reality I thought it was a typo as I've never seen that word before.

    Didn't know I'd be crapped on for something I didn't know xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenseiMaria View Post

    This situation is almost completely temporary. You think Square would just leave money on the table for literally no reason? No, thats absurd, they're a capitalist business. This whole situation just screams of 'we needed a solution NOW, we'll implement this and then change it when we get a better one operational' to me.
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Let me tell you about New Coke.

    Some decades back, Coke was afraid they would lose market share to Pepsi. Because Pepsi was sweeter and might give a bigger sugar rush.

    So they developed a new, sweeter, recipe.
    They called it New Coke.
    It was a disaster and Coke sales fell through the floor.
    Coca Cola Corp responded, a few months later, by bringing back the old recipe under the label 'Classic Coke'.

    For a long time afterward, conspiracy theorists claimed it was all part of a secret ploy to make minor changes to the original Coke recipe and have the public accept them.
    They claimed there were warehouses full of cans of 'Classic Coke' for a year, ready to go.

    These theories were thoroughly debunked (For one, aluminium cans cannot hold Coke for that long without ruining it.) But people kept believing them.
    Why?
    Because they were under the, false, belief that Capitalist Corporations never make the mistake of leaving money on the table.


    Corporations DO make major mistakes.
    Square Enix made a few recently, that cost them money.

    They badly underestimated the potential sales of Endwalker and had to stop selling the game while trying to upgrade the servers.
    They let a major code bug through the QA tests and caused the first Housing Auction to be a disaster.
    I can mention a few, minor, story flow errors in Endwalker that have left many streamers emotionally uninvested in *Spoiler Redacted*.

    This is, IMHO, another such error. The anger here is a symptom of that mistake.

    Quote Originally Posted by SassyAssassin View Post
    So in other words:
    Stormpeaks: "This negatively affects my experience when using this service."
    SassyAssassin: "Well it doesn't affect MINE, so your bad experiences don't matter."

    Pretty much says everything we need to know about you.
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    Last edited by KremlinKOA; 10-27-2022 at 12:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KremlinKOA View Post

    Corporations DO make major mistakes.
    Square Enix made a few recently, that cost them money.

    They badly underestimated the potential sales of Endwalker and had to stop selling the game while trying to upgrade the servers.
    They let a major code bug through the QA tests and caused the first Housing Auction to be a disaster.
    I can mention a few, minor, story flow errors in Endwalker that have left many streamers emotionally uninvested in *Spoiler Redacted*.

    This is, IMHO, another such error. The anger here is a symptom of that mistake.
    It's not looking like an error on their part, but a problem that picked up back in September when they originally announced they were suspending gifting. There was that huge breach elsewhere and a bunch of accounts managed to get compromised, which made more resources available for RMT. A lot of those accounts had saved payment info and you know what happens with that. There's plenty of user fault in this, especially with the people engaging in these transactions thinking they were safe.
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    There's plenty of user fault in this, especially with the people engaging in these transactions thinking they were safe.
    I have to agree with this, the RMT bots would have no business without buyers..how anyone could think that this wouldnt come back to bite them ....or someone else.....is beyond me.

    If it seems to good to be true....it usually is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    I have to agree with this, the RMT bots would have no business without buyers..how anyone could think that this wouldnt come back to bite them ....or someone else.....is beyond me.

    If it seems to good to be true....it usually is.
    Or you know. The fact that people almost 10 years in STILL don't use OTPs to protect their accounts. An OTP would have literally prevented this from happening but sure let's fault SE for having to implement a system in response to user negligence. At this point anyone who got their account compromised deserves it for the multiple user failures you would have to imploy for that to happen. They should also go a step further and mandate the usage of an OTP on all accounts.
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    Last edited by Havenchild; 10-27-2022 at 07:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshDidit View Post
    I'm not sure what your reading comprehension level is...
    But 'attempt' in this instance means 'will'.
    No, it doesn't have the same implications.

    As you presented it, a reader would think they said "we know this changes nothing and won't prevent any illegal sales, but we're making you suffer for it anyway."

    When what they actually said is, "we know they'll keep trying to make sales, which is why we're also prepared to delete illegally-bought items from the buyer's account if we can confirm it."

    The scammers will continue to attempt. The difference made by this change – at least in theory – is whether they can get away with it.
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