Marketboard Treatment

[MikotoV]

I dont know these people all I did was put up some Leathers, some materias and others items as other players have. I started catching on to said player buying my things then eventually changing retainer names over to my actual name as if I had done something personally to them. After that they followed me into different markets. Any market I went into they had friends follow and buy my things, post it back with rude names. The occurrence at the FC house was weird because said person stood there staring at me and my friends, afking next to the marketboard and doing several emotes at us.

[KairiElise]

I dont know these people all I did was put up some Leathers, some materias and others items as other players have. I started catching on to said player buying my things then eventually changing retainer names over to my actual name as if I had done something personally to them. After that they followed me into different markets. Any market I went into they had friends follow and buy my things, post it back with rude names. The occurrence at the FC house was weird because said person stood there staring at me and my friends, afking next to the marketboard and doing several emotes at us.

You can report them for emote spamming.

[Jojoya]

I dont know these people all I did was put up some Leathers, some materias and others items as other players have. I started catching on to said player buying my things then eventually changing retainer names over to my actual name as if I had done something personally to them. After that they followed me into different markets. Any market I went into they had friends follow and buy my things, post it back with rude names. The occurrence at the FC house was weird because said person stood there staring at me and my friends, afking next to the marketboard and doing several emotes at us.

Okay, you got me curious. I'll come chill with you to see for myself. You can point out the MB listings where they're using retainer names to harass you and maybe we can come up with ways to counter them. Is your character the one that you posted on in a different thread in a different subforum that I also replied to?

Their actions towards you are beyond insane and something SE should take care of ASAP. I've heard of similar stories and how people who get into market board do it on their alt for these reasons. Its absolutely wild.

I know i'm also assuming, but wouldn't surprise me if these people are doing RMT.

Someone engaged in RMT isn't going to spend their time harassing a player. They're going to spend their time making and selling gil.

[MikotoV]

No this is my only account and sorry about the late reply busy workweek. If you are online currently Jojoya I can meet up with you.

[Jojoya]

No this is my only account and sorry about the late reply busy workweek. If you are online currently Jojoya I can meet up with you.

Well then this confuses me a bit

To protect myself from further harassment I am posting on an alternate account I made.

I guess you meant character where you said account.

But yes, I'll be happy to help you if we can connect. I wasn't online earlier today and I'm probably going to be distracted by Dynamis chaos this week but I'll try to keep an eye out for you posting in this thread again.

I get some people want affordable prices for everything, but that isn't how an economy works. Stuff sells at a high price because people are willing to pay a high price (and those people are not RMT)

And sometimes you'd make more gil selling at a lower price because more people are able/willing to pay the lower price. I always take a close look at high priced items that sell rarely. Is this something that would sell more often if I dropped the price significantly, leading to a better net profit per week than the current seller(s) is getting?

You have to be smart and think about exactly who is most likely to buy the item instead of thinking "maybe someone rich will buy it at a high price"

[TomsYoungerBro]

Someone engaged in RMT isn't going to spend their time harassing a player. They're going to spend their time making and selling gil.

I strongly disagree with this. Harassment is a tool to scare competition. If they want to run the market to make money, scaring outside sellers is not "wasting time".

[mR_iOuS]

I strongly disagree with this. Harassment is a tool to scare competition. If they want to run the market to make money, scaring outside sellers is not "wasting time".

Yea, I'd have to agree there. If anything, if they've been at it long enough, they probably feel like they're unstoppable. I just started naming all of my retainers Meeseeks because the names across the DC are just out of control. (Also the first thing that kept popping in my head as I was looking through the markets, lol. LOOK AT MEE OOOoOOOOOoo-WEEE!) To me retainer names are relative cuz my name is plastered all over everything, but they're actively trying to communicate with each other through retainers. Some people make it their life's mission to antagonize you in the market in hopes you'll slip up and make mistakes that benefit them. As someone who's had his wares tanked by a player, then bought with his alts, I feel for ya. I do get a chuckle though cuz I had someone appear literally out of nowhere with a different LDCs wares, and they're being held up by a one man band. Tank it all they want, the market's just gonna start buckling. And here I thought I was gonna get to stay in my lane this year. xD

Keep your head up, if it's too much a bother just keep trying to kindly ask them to stop, if they don't, report. Sounds more like they're just trolling, which should be reportable. Everyone out here trying to grief each other out of the market, and from what I see, unless SE reigns it in, everyone's gonna get dirty being in the Market. And the deeper you're in it, the dirtier it gets. The smaller the footprint you have in the market, the easier it will be for anyone to just force you out, and if it's low enough that they think they can turn a profit and maintain being 'the only gig in town', they will. It's one thing to be the only one if you are indeed the only one. When I came back in to the market, I regrettably forced a couple people out, but they were the same from last time, and they were at it gain with the gouging because?

They were the only gig in town.

[Kes13a]

I strongly disagree with this. Harassment is a tool to scare competition. If they want to run the market to make money, scaring outside sellers is not "wasting time".

most RMT bots arent going to care.

the people who harass you are going to be other actual players who feel hitting the gil cap is some form of epeen fulfillment. and removing you from the equation is their form of "fun". RMT people have bots putting things up and undercutting you, they dont know or care who you are, their interest is real money, not taking the time to find out your retainer names etc

[Jojoya]

I strongly disagree with this. Harassment is a tool to scare competition. If they want to run the market to make money, scaring outside sellers is not "wasting time".

Another player would. RMT wouldn't.

Engaging in harassment of a single player accomplishes nothing for RMT when there are multiple player competitors. We're not seeing reports of dozens of sellers per world being harassed. It's apparently just this one player.

[mR_iOuS]

Another player would. RMT wouldn't.

As true as I want that to be, it's a very black & white to assume we know what's going on with them outside of the market unless we are RMT. Might be 'bots' as we call them, but real people still gotta maintain those things. Now what I do believe is they wouldn't waste their time trying to be completionists in the game, or decorate their rooms, etc. If I was looking for RMT that'd be my 1st guess, but off topic to OP. I've got a whole post I could make about it, potential theories, methods, yadda yadda.