Whatever happened to “We don’t balance fights around healers needing to do damage?”

[ty_taurus]

I also mained scholar during ARR for coil turn 1. Tanks couldn't wall pull in a normal dungeon party with a scholar because we couldn't heal enough. The DPS abilities took the place of other tools.

Maybe you were just a bad SCH then? I healed wall-to-walls just fine.

Edit: I mean, I recall often trying to load up all my DoTs, then use Bane, and I would be stuck GCD healing for a bit, but SCH also didn't actually have an AoE button anyway, so Miasma II + Baned other DoTs and then going to heal was kinda the best thing you could do both for DPS and for healing really. Ruin's dinky 80 potency on single target wasn't an amazing way to clear down trash packs. You moreso focused on when DoTs needed to be reapplied.

[Fendred]

Maybe you were just a bad SCH then? I healed wall-to-walls just fine.

Edit: I mean, I recall often trying to load up all my DoTs, then use Bane, and I would be stuck GCD healing for a bit, but SCH also didn't actually have an AoE button anyway, so Miasma II + Baned other DoTs and then going to heal was kinda the best thing you could do both for DPS and for healing really. Ruin's dinky 80 potency on single target wasn't an amazing way to clear down trash packs. You moreso focused on when DoTs needed to be reapplied.

Reminding me yet again why trying to talk to people on these forums is pointless. People just venting at others for no apparent reason.
In random groups it was a complete crapshoot if someone could wall pull as a scholar because our healing resources were limited in a way that white mage was not. Of course when ilvl started to kick in things got a little better. White mage could save an underperforming group, but everyone had to be on top of things for scholar to do it. There were only so many charges to use on lustrate before we were out of gas.

Also cleared all of coil turn 1 as scholar when it was the current tier, so I think I was pretty competent as a scholar.

[ty_taurus]

Reminding me yet again why trying to talk to people on these forums is pointless. People just venting at others for no apparent reason.
In random groups it was a complete crapshoot if someone could wall pull as a scholar because our healing resources were limited in a way that white mage was not. Of course when ilvl started to kick in things got a little better. White mage could save an underperforming group, but everyone had to be on top of things for scholar to do it. There were only so many charges to use on lustrate before we were out of gas.

I mean don't get me wrong, I was a really bad SCH in ARR and HW. I was an even worse AST. I sucked at the game both because I was on a PS3 and because I didn't understand a lot of the nuance of the game. I didn't know what weaving was until the second half of HW. I understood that there was a difference between the GCD and abilities with cooldowns, and I did recognize that there was a timing aspect, but actually recognizing that as a core aspect of skill usage was beyond me. AST especially, I would frequently be standing there playing with cards without actually casting Malefic or a heal. The really of ARR is that most of us were awful.

Take a look at footage from old WHM players in the coils during ARR. All of them not only don't DPS, they're spamming Cure and sometimes even Cure II on a full HP tank. We were bad at the game, and that's okay. It doesn't mean that any specific strengths or weaknesses of the jobs were bad design choices. Not all of them were good either, but my point was that people were able to make due with SCH's DPS tools and really bad AoE healing potential in a time were all of us were terrible at this game. Now many of us are much better, the game is at least a little more effective at helping players get better, and there are better resources for learning how to manage your actions across the internet now. If we were, by in large, perfectly capable of managing a bunch of DoTs and OGCD DPS buttons all while healing with an incredibly limited healing toolkit back when all of us were awful at this game, why does the idea of having a similar level of DPS engagement plus an immensely superior healing toolkit cause you to fear for your ability to heal?