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  1. #21
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    HuaTuo's Avatar
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    Hua Tuo
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    Zurvan
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    well I for one stopped trying coz I cba doing content for all of ONE quickarm materia, no matter what these limsa dwellers above are pretending to advocate. I genuinely thought there'd be some meaningful reward for spending hours upon hours progressing and reprogressing with PF roulette. Materia and a chair mount? Are you kidding xD Also, apparently the "savage" version is exactly same - except there is NO res. So basically if you want the same model chair only in gold and TWO materias, you can't die . LOL no thanks.

    The dung itself IS fun. but I cba doing it for nothing. There's no fun in doing hard content for no (EDIT: inadequate) reward. Except if you're a pretentious weirdo claiming to do otherwise.
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    Last edited by HuaTuo; 10-22-2022 at 03:41 AM.

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    DarkMasamune's Avatar
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    Miss Eclipse
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    Alpha
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Althought I did enjoy the dungeons, I keep wondering what the point of those diamond thing is.

    There are tons of chests lying around but as far as I noticed, unless it is from the bosses, it's always those crappy diamonds. There are useless, so what's the point ? Would have been nice to put different things in there.
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  3. #23
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    Jojo Bizzare
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    Cactuar
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    They could at least reward like a set of materia instead of one to ease the gil hit for remelding between jobs withn roles
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  4. #24
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Diabolos
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    You're wrong, if there is no cool looking reward or power gain, he majority of players have no reason to do a piece of content more than once, or at all.
    They could have simply added a twine or moonshine to upgrade tome gear (one per week) or something.
    Then instead of demanding SE feed your bird brain "must have shiny thing or rage" mentality, how about you stop to consider why you only do things if you get a treat after? Weird conditioning going on there, imo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    I'm not 'wrong'. I just feel differently. I'm more of a way than destination kind of person. I play for fun and discovery. I'd still play VD if it had no rewards since solving a puzzle is my reward.
    Exactly. When I found that one NPC in Old Sharlayan who gave a mystery reward (just a leveling ring coffer if I remember correctly) that sent you on a scavenger hunt, my partner and I had a blast running around, dissecting NPC dialogue, and solving puzzles to find the right people to talk to. The reward was basically nothing but even still now almost a year later we still think back to that and wish there was more puzzle content because the prize is solving it, not a bauble at the end.
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    Last edited by Doozer; 10-23-2022 at 04:23 PM. Reason: Replying to more stuff

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    Lil Imp
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    Goblin
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I feel like all of the people complaining about the rewards never noticed the Criterion mount is able to be sold on the marketboard .

    I made hundreds of millions of gil selling them to impulsive people, which is honestly a pretty good reward.
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    Nepharius's Avatar
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    Nepharius One
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 80
    Wasn't it a long held complaint that there was no need for capped item level outside of savage? That there was nothing to do after you finished the raid? If this is meant to fill that role, I think demanding gear progression from it is silly. Criterion was never advertised as an alternative gearing path and we already have catch up content.
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  7. #27
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    Victor Spoils
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    Coeurl
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    I feel like all of the people complaining about the rewards never noticed the Criterion mount is able to be sold on the marketboard .

    I made hundreds of millions of gil selling them to impulsive people, which is honestly a pretty good reward.
    That means you already managed to find at least two of them. Consider yourself a lucky lil imp.
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  8. #28
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    O'ramen Tia
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    Coeurl
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    Scholar Lv 90
    It’s valid if your goal of doing a hard content is just for fun.
    It’s also valid if your goal of doing a hard content is for the loot.
    There’s no need to invalidate how other people’s thoughts

    However, no one can deny the fact that the reward of the criterion dungeon is not motivating to most players. A glamour earring that is barely noticeable, a banner, a mount that needs 100 silver coins which can also be bought from MB. To work for that you would need to spend hours of progging to clear the content, which is on the equivalent level of progging to clear a savage fight. The fact you only get to exchange a single piece of grade 10 materia from doing the savage version is the most insulting thing ever.

    When you have a bad reward system, it turns down majority of player’s desire to do it, especially you have to spend hours and hours. Before the patch dropped, I have reached out at least 10 friends with different raiding backgrounds to do the criterion together (in different groups ofc). On the patch day, 2 people dropped immediately because they thought the loot was garbage. 3 days later, half of them dropped because they lost the interest. 1 week later, none of them wanted to continue any more.

    Then I looked up on pf, there’s usually only 2 or 3 groups looking for members on Crystal, and usually most of them are on the first boss prog. Then the occasional 1 group which stated 3rd boss prog usually turns into 2nd boss prog. It is quite miserable because I do enjoy the fight designs of all 3 bosses, but it’s incredibly difficult to find people who are on the same prog as you to join.
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  9. #29
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    Lucretia Ryusagi
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    Twintania
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RamenJD View Post
    The fact you only get to exchange a single piece of grade 10 materia from doing the savage version is the most insulting thing ever.
    Materia always seems overpriced to me, i kinda see he point of crafting&gathering materia, but there isnt really any source to buy them for currency anyway.
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  10. #30
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    Valentyne Laska
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Matots View Post
    Content is fun, think everyone agrees on it. Format works, though the savage version could use some improvement, so i wanna see it again but this seems so much like a missed opportunity on its rewards.

    Why not make this a means to speed gearing for people that are late? For people already at bis, it means they can get alt jobs geared and the content is alive for longer; for people that aren't bis or just started progging, its a means to gain a fast track to prepare for the next ultimate, get glamour, etc.

    I don't even mean the actual savage pieces btw, just using the books to convert them into savage books would already be massive, even if on a 2:1 ratio, since that means a drop in 1 to 2 weeks of waiting for a specific piece..
    Sounds like you're really unsatisfied with the current savage loot system rather than criterion dungeons themselves, a sentiment I completely share.
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