DO something about DRK and Monk trolls/griefers on Borderland Ruins (Frontline)

[Cidel]

What's stopping you from sending up a few people in advance to clear out the area?

Half of the time it's skill.

The other half is awareness and having cognitive mental processes that goes beyond "midmidmidmidmidhitnodesmidmid-" when you're going up ramps.

It's why these are even effective tactics at all; there's often a shortage of both. Ever see MNKs, tanks and MCH bait other people into a 1v1 to getting knocked off a cliff in Shatter? Same concept.

[Jettinson]

Ever see MNKs, tanks and MCH bait other people into a 1v1 to getting knocked off a cliff in Shatter? Same concept.

The amount of times I see people mindlessly chase someone near the cliffs in Shatter only to get push off or just die to fall damage is funny.

[Geryth]

[Nikoto]

Hilarious, yesterday I managed to pull off 3 people while we were retreating. Never gets old.

[UnrealTai]

First Onsal, then Fields of Glory, now this? Dang.

This has been a thing for years though.
Just as bad as letting sam have a one shot no matter what move.

Balance wise all of that garbage should be removed, despite me finding it funny when I see it happen.

[Chiyeko]

kind of funny about those type of ppl they are never good in a straight 1v1 fight or duel someone in arena, kind of sad seeing a ledge monk try to killing someone with 0 BH but can't kill them without support. But have a feeling what they did to pld will happen to monk and drk since its being abuse in those frontline of the day.

[Edelgarde]

What? Are people not allowed to have fun when playing FFXIV? You complain about them messing with you, but what about the idiots who mess with us by not pressing their buttons properly in dungeons. Then if we criticise them, we get reported and get told to just let people have fun with the game. Just let people do what they want, because we have to let people do what they want in PvE content. Tough luck. Cry more!

[Chiyeko]

Well I don't run frontline development team, tbh ppl cry and well SE will fix issue, like they did to pld its going to happen to abuse mechics. Seen team of monk group up and just ledge ppl to death doesn't matter what team they are they just group up with a drk now and then.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Small revisit of this thread, hi.

Knockbacks and Draw-ins are fine, if you have a problem with environmental kills consider asking them for additions like wooden barriers on parts of the stairs that will let you potentially slide along and live.

Change the map, not the kit. People just use their abilities for environmental kills and should not be punished for it.

[Blinding_Awesomeness]

I started marking DRKs, WARs, and MNKs on Borderland Ruin days, and it seems to help people a fair bit. However, even with markers, fools will be fools. I've seen people fight MNKs with their backs to the edges of cliffs, or people take obvious baits and chase DRKs to the edge. I agree that maybe instead of removing golf, some extra barriers to make it a little harder for golfers will help. It can be tough to see the ones on the ledge behind, even if I turn my camera the entire way up the ramp.

As an aside, one way to tilt golfers is to make them waste an action. I've had a premade golfing team hound me an entire match because I wouldn't take their bait. They even tried to taunt me to get me angry or something. XD