what can be done to improve the phys ranged situation?

[grinkdaboy]

2 raid tiers now i have been unable to find a phys ranged player or anybody that wanted to play phys ranged and i have had a double caster comp. i could see that there were a few points (specifically p3s and p4s p1) that lacking the 1% bonus hobbled us, but more gear helped us push through it. i'm a melee main and have no interest in playing it, so, what could be done to make playing phys ranged not blow chunks? (and i'm not referring to encounter design giving more uptime and having humongous hitboxes which hey i welcome and maybe they should increase phys ranged numbers)

[Jeeqbit]

It was really that hard to find one? Just advertise for a MCH.

They seemed to agree they should revisit the ranged damage tax in the next patch so we should just see what happens then.

[Knot_D]

Ranged really that rare? As a DNC main this shook me...

[grinkdaboy]

our dancer asked to swap to smn 3/4ths way through progging 7s because he wasn't having fun with it

[RyuDragnier]

our dancer asked to swap to smn 3/4ths way through progging 7s because he wasn't having fun with it

I LOVE that fight as DNC. Nobody is far away from your dancing when it's time to do it, there's very little heavy button presses during movement (it's far easier than other raid fights for that), and the fight is really straightforward. The only hard part is of course, Harvest. <_<

[Ashpd]

How? Make hitboxes small again. Done.

[grinkdaboy]

that doesn't make phys ranged any more fun to play. i feel like we're reaching a situation like how healers felt (and might still feel) in shb

[DixieBellOCE]

that doesn't make phys ranged any more fun to play. i feel like we're reaching a situation like how healers felt (and might still feel) in shb

But range phys have more than 2 buttons in their rotation so how does that work?

[Jeeqbit]

that doesn't make phys ranged any more fun to play. i feel like we're reaching a situation like how healers felt (and might still feel) in shb

Fun to play? I find Machinist a lot of fun. I don't main DPS but when I play them MCH is one of the ones I play a lot. I don't think fun is the issue on MCH at least.

It's hard to say on a DNC, I don't play them much, maybe it's fun if you get to use En Avant a lot?

I haven't played BRD a lot since Stormblood, but it was my main DPS then and I don't believe it's changed a lot since then. Subtle interactions have changed such as Sidewinder not being affected by dots, Refulgent Arrow being procced by Barrage, the rotation not being affected by crits and not needing to apply dots to help proc Rain of Death aoe. All of that is pretty minor.

Bard is great if you like a technical class that monitors a lot of things such as dots, song expires, pitch perfect stacks, the soul voice gauge, working towards Radiant Finale and using the most useful songs to fit the fight such as when aoe will be needed. But I have a feeling a lot of people will gravitate toward the others which are simpler than that.

[GeminiReed]

It's hard to say on a DNC, I don't play them much, maybe it's fun if you get to use En Avant a lot?

En Avant is a trap. Yes I was able to do some clutch things with it when my old static was progging Eden but you really don't want to rely on it. Better to learn the right way to do the fight.