What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

Angry baby rage

Gonna be honest, I ain't reading that word vomit. You sounded deranged in your first paragraph. Sorry that bringing up the big bad evil WoW triggered you so hard, I guess?

Still writes better morally grey characters than FFXIV. Still makes better set pieces than FFXIV - especially considering Endwalker's apocalypse being meaningless. Still does huge battles better than FFXIV.

Sorry not sorry if that triggers you.

#IllidanWasRight

I would love it if Yoshi would stop taking away my character's agency and forcing them into ridiculous dynamics like the one the story prescribed for my character and Venat. Are we supposed to self-insert into our Wols/Azems or not? Can't wait for a short story next year to confirm we were rushing to that woman's side just before she wiped out her own race. Widen the chasm between the player character and myself even more.

Also this. My Azem and WoL would never forgive Venat for the atrocities she committed and the people she took away not just from the Unsundered, but from them as well. Yoshida can shove his mommy-loving fetish on me all he likes, that isn't my WoL in Endwalker.

[Striker44]

Still writes better morally grey characters than FFXIV. Still makes better set pieces than FFXIV - especially considering Endwalker's apocalypse being meaningless.
#IllidanWasRight

Hahahahaha! Oh, that's rich! Excuse *wheeze* me while I *gasp* try to *chuckle* stop laughing.

I would love it if Yoshi would stop taking away my character's agency and forcing them into ridiculous dynamics like the one the story prescribed for my character and Venat.

This is common in practically every JRPG I can think of. Your character isn't "you" - you are playing the role of that character. I find it amusing when people play a JRPG and then complain that it has common elements of a...JRPG...

[jameseoakes]

Hahahahaha! Oh, that's rich! Excuse *wheeze* me while I *gasp* try to *chuckle* stop laughing.


This is common in practically every JRPG I can think of. Your character isn't "you" - you are playing the role of that character. I find it amusing when people play a JRPG and then complain that it has common elements of a...JRPG...

Yes but most JRPGs make exploring the character of the main character a main part of the game, not make them a blank slate your meant to be free to use within a somewhat defined range and not thrown out at the very end of the the main story arc

[BaconBits]

Typical Striker44 moment.

[Theodric]

Typical Striker44 moment.

I know I've said as much in the past, though that image never fails to make me laugh. So I'm going to quote it so it remains one of my final posts around these parts.

I won't rule out a potential return altogether though I've let my subscription lapse so my posting rights will run out any day now.

Needless to say there isn't really anything in the recent patch that appealed to me. I've always loathed Hildibrand and appreciated that it was locked away in its own little bubble rather than tied to major content. The latest batch of beast tribe quests continues the bizarre trajectory of making strawmen out of alien races/pushing some utterly bizarre 'themes'. Then there's the criterion dungeon desperately trying to sanitise Ul'dah's dark past.

With the Ascians/Ancients and Garleans cast off of the playing board there isn't much other than the Void that really interests me in the game these days and that, in itself, seems to be set to be the next target to be wrapped up in an all too neat little bow.

I'll be pleasantly surprised if that isn't the case - though even if it isn't, my complaints towards this game extend beyond the story.

[AwesomeJr44]

I know I've said as much in the past, though that image never fails to make me laugh. So I'm going to quote it so it remains one of my final posts around these parts.

I won't rule out a potential return altogether though I've let my subscription lapse so my posting rights will run out any day now..

It's a shame to see you go, you're one of the most fair and intellectual posters on the forums, but hopefully you find greener pastures wherever you decide to head next. *gives a virtual bro hug*

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

Hahahahaha! Oh, that's rich! Excuse *wheeze* me while I *gasp* try to *chuckle* stop laughing.

I mean, at least people aren't treating Illidan in-world like some tragic hero who did all the atrocities he did for the sake of his brave little sparks. They treat him like the asshole he is, they treat him with distrust and wariness because of what he is and what he's done. He may be doing all he does for the sake of a good cause, but no one treats him like a hero or worship the ground he walks on or call him a savior.

Which is already miles better treatment of a morally grey/evil-leaning character than Endwalker.

Keep being triggered that people say WoW of all things has better writing than Endwalker, though. I'm sure one day Yoshi-senpai will notice you.

I don't have Venat as a character,

Yeah, this is pretty much my stance. I think Venat could have been a very well-written villain/villain-adjacent character, and I don't personally hate her as she is. I hate the way the writing bent itself over and into a pretzel just to defend what she did as being Correct and Right and Good and Out of Love.

Write her how she is and let people react to her in a sensical manner, and I'd have no issues with her.