DO something about DRK and Monk trolls/griefers on Borderland Ruins (Frontline)

[nighttimebunny]

You can get off your mount and guard.
However, this is the most boring map of all so maybe just don’t do it outside of daily roulette? I find it very boring and just don’t do it, plus I don’t play the jobs that can push people off lol

[UnrealTai]

It seems fine to me also

That said SE has been actively removing fun things like this anyway so youll probably get your wish.

The old way was a MCH using blow back every 30 seconds to someone on the ramp for insta KOs, but thats now gone and Im sure one day this will be too, so meh

A less intuitive one was a war jumping off then using their chain to yank people down with them as the war used some type of invuln so they didnt also die when landing, its been awhile, forgot what combo of abils it was lol

As trolly as it may be I always internally laughed when Id climb the ramps and see like 10 people falling to their deaths. Annoying sure but still funny.

[Jettinson]

Seems ok honestly, it is more a map issue rather than the players.., the vertical blind spot at the end of the ramp is rough but once you know there are people on mid, you gotta take it slow or just bait. People also do that on Shatter although there is less activity in those specific parts.

At the same time, Borderlands is just a snoozefest and the mid section is the only place to get something out of it and mess around.

[Elfidan]

I think the problem isn't really the act of going golfing the entire match. It's the lopsided power it causes thanks to it awarding ten points to your adrenaline as well as victory points. If you find this fun, why even play with other people? You clearly don't want a fair fight so why pretend you do? Imagine saying don't play the objectives if you don't want to be killed by people you can't see until it's too late. Good meme though.

[Mandudez]

Secure is by far the worst fronelines map and that is saying something with how poorly balanced the top spawn in seize is (and to a lesser extent shatter's south spawn, and the one spawn in onsal that is opposite of the docks node). It should not even be in the game. But as shown by the recent PLD guardian update SE only cares about JP players, especially in pvp. So our posts here mean less than nothing.

[RydiaFey]

If it's any consolation I'm pretty sure they lose points if they are killing BH with fall damage.

[RydiaFey]

"Certain jobs have advantage on certain maps in certain areas in my non-trinity pvp largescale mode, I hate it."

...is all I understand from this. Sorry but other than a map redesign I can not see any reason why jobs with knockback / draw-in effects should be punished for cleverly utilising their kit for environmental damage. This is a PvP classic.

What's next, we gonna be mad at them for drawing people into the track line when the train arrives on Hidden Gorge?

Exactly. This reminds me of melee players in wow complaining about pillars. It's part of what makes their kit valuable. Maybe they aren't as good as your class in other areas? Like each class can have things they are good at? Would you really rather it all be homogenized?

This is why SE keeps dumbing down pvp. People can't handle being outplayed by anything more organic than repeating mechanics.

Sorry, but if this triggers you maybe just avoid the map instead of complaining. Complaining is how we got our entire kits reduced, gear being reduced to glams instead of stats. It's how we lost 8v8v8 frontlines, and the old 8v8 team death match. We don't need to reduce the interactions or complexity anymore, it's simple enough.

Please, go complain about pve and ruin that, leave pvp alone. You guys have done enough.

Obviously I'm not just taking about the person who started the thread, I'm just annoyed in general with the way people haven't let the devs develop anything complex because of their need to complain about how unfair it is.

Sorry Reinhardt, wasn't trying to hijack your comment or say you feel the same way as I do. Just felt like having a little rant about ffxiv pvp.

[Karasio]

PvP in its current incarnation does not deserve to live either. The team is not doing anything with it, no balance updates, nothing. But that's a thing unto itself.

I only queue that map just to push people off

LowTierGod would like to have a word with you

[VictorSpoils]

First Onsal, then Fields of Glory, now this? Dang.

[Xylira]

You can get off your mount and guard.

Guard does nothing if a monk has their LB ready and really wants you dead.