Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[SassyAssassin]

But why cant we still have feminine?
I know Ill get a lot of hate for saying this, they should look like beasts whilst still feeling like actual women, so yes fur all over etc etc, make them thicker if you guys want them but please dont give them broader shoulders in comparison with the rest of the body. Basically dont make them fuzzy roes.
The picture on the previous page looked miles better than the latter at least to me. It looks nothing like the catgirls or Viera but it doesn’t look mannish either. As I already stated multiple times, I dont like where this is going race-wise.
Its as if dudes are the girls and girls are the dudes lately.
They can and SHOULD give them actual beastly facial features but please.......let me know its a woman when Im behind one as well.

[Midareyukki]

But why cant we still have feminine?
I know Ill get a lot of hate for saying this, they should look like beasts whilst still feeling like actual women, so yes fur all over etc etc, make them thicker if you guys want them but please dont give them broader shoulders in comparison with the rest of the body. Basically dont make them fuzzy roes.
The picture on the previous page looked miles better than the latter at least to me. It looks nothing like the catgirls or Viera but it doesn’t look mannish either. As I already stated multiple times, I dont like where this is going race-wise.
Its as if dudes are the girls and girls are the dudes lately.
They can and SHOULD give them actual beastly facial features but please.......let me know its a woman when Im behind one as well.

I mean, calm down? We've only seen sketches, and they do look feminine. You're not going to only have the one body, not even Female Roegadyn do. And Femroes can be quite feminine in turn, can't they? o: so relax, you'll have options. There'll be Character Customization, not Character Presets xD

Unfortunately, we will have fuzzy roes, that's the race, period. Please stop insisting on otherwise, you already have non-fuzzy catgirls in this game. Please understand that much. You will have fuzzy roes. The question now is what sort of fuzzy roes you will have.

And no. Dudes still look like Dudes... it's called Male Hrothgar. They look like dudes still. The ones that got super similar to females were male Viera. And that was because fans ASKED for it. But this is a conversation for another thread. Female Hrothgar will look similar to that, because that's the identity they've established with Male Hrothgar. I'm positive it won't go past that in terms of what the devs will design. And you will still have your feminine options, just be aware that your "feminine options" will still very much in line with a large, bulky animalistic felid race.

[SassyAssassin]

I mean, calm down? We've only seen sketches, and they do look feminine. You're not going to only have the one body, not even Female Roegadyn do. And Femroes can be quite feminine in turn, can't they? o: so relax, you'll have options. There'll be Character Customization, not Character Presets xD

Unfortunately, we will have fuzzy roes, that's the race, period. Please stop insisting on otherwise, you already have non-fuzzy catgirls in this game. Please understand that much. You will have fuzzy roes. The question now is what sort of fuzzy roes you will have.

And no. Dudes still look like Dudes... it's called Male Hrothgar. They look like dudes still. The ones that got super similar to females were male Viera. And that was because fans ASKED for it. But this is a conversation for another thread. Female Hrothgar will look similar to that, because that's the identity they've established with Male Hrothgar. I'm positive it won't go past that in terms of what the devs will design. And you will still have your feminine options, just be aware that your "feminine options" will still very much in line with a large, bulky animalistic felid race.

You understood nothing of what I said. I didn’t say they shouldn’t look furry or beastly. Certainly didnt “insist” on it. I said they shouldn’t look manly.
Plus I am calm, people are stating their opinion and wishes and I stated mine simple as that. Maybe you should calm down to read before you answer?
And the customisation in this game is nonexistent as far as it concerns body shapes except booba. So if they decide to make disproportionate bodies, that will be unchangeable and it will be only one body to choose from. We have different faces and heights yes but that’s pretty much it.

I didn’t talk about male hrothgar. Didn’t even mention them, I was referring to Viera men. And I’ve been on that thread, there were multiple fans who did not ask for that. Probably even more, not to mention most people playing aren’t even on the forums.

I do understand we already have catgirls in this game and Im not a fan of them either. I didn’t ask for catgirls.

As I said, I have no problems with animalistic races and even bulk, I know they are Hrothgars after all, but I don’t want to confuse a male with a female and that’s just my wish.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I know Ill get a lot of hate for saying this, they should look like beasts whilst still feeling like actual women.

Why would you get hate for saying this?....this is what we all want.
Of course, some people such as myself want them to have FemRoe Bodies like the Males have MaleRoe, but that doesnt mean they will look Man-ish.
Its just that they wont be cutesy and Dainty, like the Au-Ra.

End of the day, These are Female Hrothgar, they will look like Women. They will look Feminine.
Even FemRoe look Pretty and Cute if you actually put in the time.

[Midareyukki]

You understood nothing of what I said. I didn’t say they shouldn’t look furry or beastly.

umm...

Basically dont make them fuzzy roes

That's what I meant :P

Plus I am calm

Ah yes, totally calm when you go "guys look like girls and girls look like guys". Which, on that aspect...

I didn’t talk about male hrothgar. Didn’t even mention them, I was referring to Viera men. And I’ve been on that thread, there were multiple fans who did not ask for that. Probably even more, not to mention most people playing aren’t even on the forums.

Yes, and that's what I'm saying. Your post suggests that you don't want guys who look like girls and girls who look like guys when it comes to female Hrothgar. Which again, the ones that did that were male Viera. From the way felid races are like, you can't exactly have Female Hrothgar that look masculine... Felines have a fair bit of dimorphism to them. And for what's worth, considering they're very likely going to recycle Roe bodies, you will be able to tell which one's the female and which isn't.

When I told you "they're a fuzzy race" I really was referring to you saying you didn't want fuzzy Roes. Which, again, are part of what the race currently is
...I do think you need to calm down :T because I wasn't attacking you if that's what you were saying. I do think that by saying that you don't want "fuzzy roes", you're willfully ignoring the race a bit.

That was all. I swear.

Plus...

Why would you get hate for saying this?....this is what we all want.
Of course, some people such as myself want them to have FemRoe Bodies like the Males have MaleRoe, but that doesnt mean they will look Man-ish.
Its just that they wont be cutesy and Dainty, like the Au-Ra.

End of the day, These are Female Hrothgar, they will look like Women. They will look Feminine.
Even FemRoe look Pretty and Cute if you actually put in the time.

He's right. And you ARE allowed to want what you want and express your opinion, as did everyone else.

But getting facts wrong isn't an opinion, and the race is, from the standpoint of core design and all, at a baseline, a furry roe. With a big cat head. And that is what we're getting, so expect whatever further designs to come out of Square to be in line with that.

[SassyAssassin]

Why would you get hate for saying this?....this is what we all want.
Of course, some people such as myself want them to have FemRoe Bodies like the Males have MaleRoe, but that doesnt mean they will look Man-ish.
Its just that they wont be cutesy and Dainty, like the Au-Ra.

End of the day, These are Female Hrothgar, they will look like Women. They will look Feminine.
Even FemRoe look Pretty and Cute if you actually put in the time.

Well the user above told me to calm down so you know xD

Yeah no I definitely don’t want dainty, but I would want to play one in the future and my beef with femroes (also Elezen) is that their shoulders are much wider than the hips.

I dont care how muscular, furry, chunky you name it, that really doesn’t bother me, maybe I should have explained better what I meant, because I do want them to look beastly.

Im talking more about the body shape. I want ASS ok? There I said it xDDD
Thighs are great dont get me wrong, but there better be two massive pillows at the start of them.

[Midareyukki]

Well the user above told me to calm down so you know xD

I reiterate. I told you to calm down because of your assessment of the race which wasn't really true. You're saying you don't want fuzzy roes and that you're seeing guys look like girls and vice versa often. Which isn't what we're going to get with this race.

OH. Wait ok I think I know what you thought. You thought I said "calm down" in terms of temperament, right? As in "cool your jets"?
No, I meant "calm down, don't get ahead of yourself, we don't know much about it yet, and from what we know as of yet is this". As in, "don't assume things will be in a given way, because we do have stuff to give us some insight as to how it will be.

I dont care how muscular, furry, chunky you name it, that really doesn’t bother me, maybe I should have explained better what I meant, because I do want them to look beastly.

Yeah :T that's what I thought you were saying.

I'm not attacking you, Assassin. I promise. I'm saying "don't get ahead of yourself".

Edit the only time I said "calm down" in terms of temperament was:

...I do think you need to calm down :T because I wasn't attacking you if that's what you were saying.

And that had to do with your reaction(s), but now I understand why you had them to begin with.

[SassyAssassin]

I reiterate. I told you to calm down because of your assessment of the race which wasn't really true. You're saying you don't want fuzzy roes and that you're seeing guys look like girls and vice versa often. Which isn't what we're going to get with this race.

OH. Wait ok I think I know what you thought. You thought I said "calm down" in terms of temperament, right? As in "cool your jets"?
No, I meant "calm down, don't get ahead of yourself, we don't know much about it yet, and from what we know as of yet is this". As in, "don't assume things will be in a given way, because we do have stuff to give us some insight as to how it will be.



Yeah :T that's what I thought you were saying.

I'm not attacking you, Assassin. I promise. I'm saying "don't get ahead of yourself".

Ah ok because that’s what it seemed like it xD sorry I understood it wrongly, English is not my first language and to me when someone says calm down it’s always in a negative way so I apologise for the misunderstanding.

I know I know there is still time and we wont know what we will get, thats why I am just voicing my wishes as well in the hopes they will be considered because I was a bit disappointed with male Viera in the end but yes that’s another topic.

My biggest wish is to be able to play around with the body proportion from next expansion on but I dont think thats ever going to happen unfortunately.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

English isn't an Easy Language.
Even Fluent English Speakers get it wrong XD

[Midareyukki]

Ah ok because that’s what it seemed like it xD sorry I understood it wrongly, English is not my first language and to me when someone says calm down it’s always in a negative way so I apologise for the misunderstanding.

I know I know there is still time and we wont know what we will get, thats why I am just voicing my wishes as well in the hopes they will be considered because I was a bit disappointed with male Viera in the end but yes that’s another topic.

My biggest wish is to be able to play around with the body proportion from next expansion on but I dont think thats ever going to happen unfortunately.

Oh it's not mine either, and the fault is frankly more on my side. Because even if it's not my native language, I have to work with it every day T_T; I SHOULD have been more careful with what I said. Me not understanding why you had that reaction was a double fail from my part.

But yeah. I do think we'll see some variety. Here's hoping, at least, because if anything this thread has shown us is that the community that supports Female Hrothgar WANTS variety.

Now, there is a baseline model that Square is going to have, that's true, and our expectations shouldn't go too far from that. It's very obvious they're going to reuse Roe models. I'd honestly be surprised if they didn't. But when it comes to femininity, I think you'll at least have some nice curves, some soft and smooth bits here and there. And I do hope it comes with a muscle slider; that way, we can control just how "masculine" we want them to be. As for the heads, I hope we'll see the same, but frankly, I can't really imagine much else other than a normal lioness's head :x

That isn't Square's fault or anything, I just don't know what else they'll do. My imagination really is that limited. The males had really interesting spins on how cat heads look and work, stuff that I didn't even think could be implemented. So it will be even more limited for females.

English isn't an Easy Language.
Even Fluent English Speakers get it wrong XD

This is true. It's a very difficult language with A LOT of nuances and exceptions to rules. But the fault is mostly on me, I should have been more careful.