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  1. #111
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    Shibi's Avatar
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    Lala Felon
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    Zurvan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Single target is the absolute worst you can do in situations where your tank and healers are bad and struggling.
    One of the things I really enjoy about playing level synced duo, is that there are places that the correct kill order matters again. Get that order wrong or brainlessly spam AOE and there are places you can wipe.

    It's sad to me that that kill order and crowd control has been trivialised to the point of not existing in light and full parties as the years have passed. (in the first weeks of the game we used to - as an example - sleep the drake add in Brayflox second boss to prevent a wipe - I still do XD because I can)
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  2. #112
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    Panic_at_the_Discord's Avatar
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    Red Earth
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    Siren
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    That line of thinking can be applied to anything in the game. Hard disagree. If I'm tired or drunk and I get home from work and want to do roulettes and be shit at it that's my right, too. Make a PF, set your rules, problem solved.
    She doesn't have to because most players don't disrespect other people enough to get drunk and demand to get carried through content. She can votekick or just leave and queue up again.
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  3. #113
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    Leifei's Avatar
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    Seijuro Kibagami
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    And this is why ex in mentor is a nightmare. Because they same people who actively refuse advice to get better que for ex in duty finder with the same mentality.
    My condolences.
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  4. #114
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    Leifei's Avatar
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    Seijuro Kibagami
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    Adamantoise
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu View Post
    As someone who opens up FFXIV when I get home from work... I might not be great at hitting cooldowns and oGCDs in an optimal fashion, but basic 1-2-3 combos, single-target or AoE, in a Duty Finder dungeon are a reasonable expectation, I feel like.
    I dig it. Personally, if I'm on FFXIV and I'm tired, then I'll just craft or something~
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  5. #115
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    should be expected to pull their weight
    Exactly right. It's unfortunate a lot of players feel that others should pick up the slack, and are completely fine with wasting the time of everyone else in the party, and that this behavior is quite often encouraged.
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    WHM | RDM | DNC

  6. #116
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    Shibi's Avatar
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    Lala Felon
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    Zurvan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Exactly right. It's unfortunate a lot of players feel that others should pick up the slack, and are completely fine with wasting the time of everyone else in the party, and that this behavior is quite often encouraged.
    Is it encouraged, or are people just too scared of gaol to speak up?
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

  7. #117
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    Eraden's Avatar
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    Character
    Mao Xifeng
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    Adamantoise
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Mao would be SUPER embarrassed if Mao did not use AoEs. BLMs are AoE specialists. Mao opens up with Thunder IV, then goes to bunch of High Fire IIs, then Blizzard III, then Freeze, then repeats. Add in Foul when comes up. Trash goes away real fast! Usually, when tank still pullings, Mao uses Triplecast to start burninatings on the run.
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  8. #118
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Is it encouraged, or are people just too scared of gaol to speak up?
    It's most definitely encouraged by many, but there are also many who are too afraid of getting banned to speak up, yes.
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    WHM | RDM | DNC

  9. #119
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    Zebra Rune
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Exactly right. It's unfortunate a lot of players feel that others should pick up the slack, and are completely fine with wasting the time of everyone else in the party, and that this behavior is quite often encouraged.
    It's not even about being an elitist or anything like that either. These people who defend and enable these other people to drag down a party of players think they are being "nice". That's what gets me - common courtesy would make you think everyone contributes, or at least TRIES to contribute because it is the polite and courteous thing to do when you are playing with other people. The ones who refuse to do their share are not respecting anyone else's time or effort, and can be pretty nasty about it too, but people are defending them? It's absolutely mind boggling.
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  10. #120
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    Shara Dei-ji
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Mao would be SUPER embarrassed if Mao did not use AoEs. BLMs are AoE specialists. Mao opens up with Thunder IV, then goes to bunch of High Fire IIs, then Blizzard III, then Freeze, then repeats. Add in Foul when comes up. Trash goes away real fast! Usually, when tank still pullings, Mao uses Triplecast to start burninatings on the run.
    Who is Mao?
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