Yoshi-P "definitive" answer on third party tools from today's 14 hour stream

[FireMage]

P5S is the only one you have good runs on, which is also the easiest of all the fights.

P5S - 1 orange, 3 purple and 2 grey. Median of 80. Your only good set of runs.
P6S - 2 greens, 3 greys and 1 blue. Median of 23.8
P7S - 5 greys, 1 blue. Median of 19.5
P8S Door - 3 blue, 3 green 3 grey. Median of 34.1
P8S Part 2 you have one clear which is a grey. Median of 9.1

You're missing a LOT of parses there, and also proving you can't read parses. Garbage post as per usual. Dismissed

[FireMage]

What kind of moron parses in 24 mans in the first place? That's like cutting off your own leg and attempting to run a race with 23 other people who plucked out their eyes instead. It's a useless endeavor outside of a structured environment, as any number of things can bone you out of your DPS without you having any control over it. Mosty other players.

If you can't perform in 24 man's you can't perform anywhere. It's the easiest thing to do well in

[Absimiliard]

You're missing a LOT of parses there, and also proving you can't read parses. Garbage post as per usual. Dismissed

Or, and here's a thought: maybe you aren't as good as you think you are?

If you can't perform in 24 man's you can't perform anywhere. It's the easiest thing to do well in

Is that how you gauge whether or not to allow players in a group? If so, that might be why it took you so long to start clearing anything.

[LittleImp]

If the main argument is to encourage personal development then why are we even having this conversation?

I know it's probably obvious, but it's because the vast majority of the arguments made in defense of parsing are being made in bad faith. Most of the people trotting out the 'personal improvement' line are people that sit there in discord taking dumps on people in private over their logs, but publicly act like they're using it to be the worlds most upstanding citizen trying to make the world a better place.

This tier has soured my outlook almost entirely on what parsing has become. Like yeah, it can be used for useful diagnostics, but let's be real, 99% of people on 14 these days are just dick-measuring with it.

If anything, in my personal experience, logging is making people worse at the game lately. I know players who are so invested in the color of their percentile that they will delay their clears by hours, days or even weeks because they feel pressured to get their first clear with a 'good' parse. Anyone who has pugged p8s has probably seen this first hand. P8S phase 2 prog parties constantly collapse because people are greeding trying to improve their doorboss parse, despite the phase essentially having a non-existent dps check now.

[FireMage]

Or, and here's a thought: maybe you aren't as good as you think you are?

If you wish to cast doubt, then get to proving. Or dismiss yourself. Choose

Is that how you gauge whether or not to allow players in a group? If so, that might be why it took you so long to start clearing anything.

Imagine thinking I take long. How cute

[Ivtrix]

If you can't perform in 24 man's you can't perform anywhere. It's the easiest thing to do well in

homie only epeen flashing groups like ERParsers (which is a group you dont qualify for btw) parse alliance raids. I cant tell you the last time I knew people who seriously went in and tried to parse.

[Ivtrix]

If you wish to cast doubt, then get to proving. Or dismiss yourself. Choose



Imagine thinking I take long. How cute

Dont kid yourself, week 7 is gargantuanly late.

[Absimiliard]

If you wish to cast doubt, then get to proving. Or dismiss yourself. Choose

Don't have to. Anyone can look at public information.

Imagine thinking I take long. How cute

I'm sure your helpful neighborhood cactuar can give you directions if you need help finding anything.

[caffe_macchiato]

This thread is living proof that parsing has become a cancer that’s progressively getting worse as the practice becomes more widely accepted. And part of this is the passive-aggressiveness that comes from the community because parsing is banned. Either ban it entirely or accept it officially and let us become competitive like WoW. Having this grey-area cop out isn’t working anymore.

Sadly, I know FFXIV is on the wane and devs don’t want to put too much effort into a title that’s on its way out, but *anything* would be better than this.

[Absimiliard]

let us become competitive like WoW.

Gonna be real here. This community is already more competitive than WoW's.