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  1. #221
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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    If these changes are seriously implemented because they think it is necessary to expand the job next expansion then please explain summoner's rework to me?
    It is on a rigid 60 second loop after the rework, so rigid in fact that delaying your demi summon phase is a massive dps loss. What are they planning to add? 1 new spell that replaces the single Ruin 3 you cast every minute?

    How do they justify removing abilities "for future expansions to the job", but then go and rework a job to have 0 room to expand on?
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 10-08-2022 at 02:48 PM.

  2. #222
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    ForsakenRoe's Avatar
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Zodiark
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    What are they planning to add?
    92 - trait that adds one extra charge to your titan phase to replace that one ruin 3
    94 - trait that adds potency to mountain buster slipstream and that ifrit dash thing
    96 - new 60s OGCD skill that takes both aetherflows but deals massive damage with aoe falloff (stronger than 2 festers on singletarget)
    98 - trait that adds a third charge of radiant shield for people in PF to never use
    100 - jk, they'll make the max level 99, new skill with 2 min CD that lets you summon leviathan ramuh and shiva egis to do a 3 hit combo attack. 3x700potency, doesnt do anything else, just a SMN themed dream-within-a-dream basically
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  3. #223
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    T-Owl's Avatar
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    Tanha Rhidill
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    Famfrit
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    92 - trait that adds one extra charge to your titan phase to replace that one ruin 3
    94 - trait that adds potency to mountain buster slipstream and that ifrit dash thing
    96 - new 60s OGCD skill that takes both aetherflows but deals massive damage with aoe falloff (stronger than 2 festers on singletarget)
    98 - trait that adds a third charge of radiant shield for people in PF to never use
    100 - jk, they'll make the max level 99, new skill with 2 min CD that lets you summon leviathan ramuh and shiva egis to do a 3 hit combo attack. 3x700potency, doesnt do anything else, just a SMN themed dream-within-a-dream basically
    I personally expect some numbers tweaks, maybe an additional ogcd somewhere and Leviathan, Ramuh, Shivah as a a second set of egis before Phoenix which mechanically play exactly the same as Ifrit, Titan and Garuda
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  4. #224
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by T-Owl View Post
    I personally expect some numbers tweaks, maybe an additional ogcd somewhere and Leviathan, Ramuh, Shivah as a a second set of egis before Phoenix which mechanically play exactly the same as Ifrit, Titan and Garuda
    That was exactly my thought as well, which is why I said "expand" on the job. Because adding some increased potency traits and some flashy summons that are functionally identical to what already exists isn't what I'd call expanding the job.

    The rotation will be exactly the same because they already designed themselves into a corner.
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  5. #225
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    Tanha Rhidill
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    That was exactly my thought as well, which is why I said "expand" on the job. Because adding some increased potency traits and some flashy summons that are functionally identical to what already exists isn't what I'd call expanding the job.

    The rotation will be exactly the same because they already designed themselves into a corner.
    It would probably the best to first move away from the 2 minute meta which turned out to be pretty bad for the game and instead of tying the demis to a cooldown instead creating a builder spender gauge in which you for example collect dreadwyrm aether to unleash Bahamut, vice versa with Phoenix.
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  6. #226
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    Cam Ember
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    Ultros
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    Paladin Lv 90
    They could and should add an additional layer of oGCD resource management to SMN to expand it. There's way more hope for SMN than for any healer class.
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  7. #227
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    Isn't this post in Healer Role section of Class & Jobs subforum under English Forum? I speak English too and I like playing healers. Am I at the wrong place?
    Don't be coy.

    You made zero attempt at any sort of discussion; instead posting a bunch of screenshots alongside dismissive comments. Whenever somehow has replied, your responses have been sardonic. It's blatantly obvious you're just looking to troll.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  8. #228
    Player Aword3213's Avatar
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    Eizen Aifread
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    Typhon
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Don't be coy.

    You made zero attempt at any sort of discussion; instead posting a bunch of screenshots alongside dismissive comments. Whenever somehow has replied, your responses have been sardonic. It's blatantly obvious you're just looking to troll.
    How were my posts with sreenshots dismissive? They reflects what screenshots shows. Or somehow my screenshots are triggering to you? My replies only get sardonic because I got dismissive responses first.

    But what was I expecting? Anyone not singing the same tune is trolling in this section of the forum.
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    Last edited by Aword3213; 10-09-2022 at 11:37 AM. Reason: cellphone typo

  9. #229
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    Maltothoris's Avatar
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    Malto Thoris
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Well this is something says a different story. From the live letter questions

    2: Lack of healer participation for this Savage raid. Anything needed to reflect on

    Reminder that these were questions asked in Japanese. And need we remind you, PF in JP is for practice while the DF is for clearing.
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  10. #230
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Zodiark
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Maltothoris View Post
    From the live letter questions
    oh boy i sure can't wait for them to learn the exact wrong lessons from why people are not playing healer
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