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    Because not everyone else can access those, as we're not from the US/EU?
    I am in Aust , I have the software token / one time pad for mobile.
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    This attack is a pretty simple one. It's just plugging in details scraped from other hacks and leaks over the years.

    If you use a password manager, and don't reuse your passwords you are as safe as you ever are.
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCheese77 View Post
    Keep in mind, the picture below is what the REAL log in to the Lodestone looks like https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/

    FAKE SITES will have jibberish letters like .xya inserted and the OTP on the same page as your name login and password.




    Holy tabs Batman!!
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    "You are just going to give me one of those stoic nods aren't you?"

    WOL = Nods

    (one of my favorite moments)

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    If you use a password manager, and don't reuse your passwords you are as safe as you ever are.
    Perhaps

    Better safe than sorry later, Shibi. Password security is a big deal.
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    Can't recommend password management software enough for something like this too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    I either buy my own sandwich or I end up with pork-nostrils.

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    Using OTP with FFXIV login is painful, bad enough you need to enter password every time, but OTP also. There's a thing called OAuth that issues security tokens once you pass all authentication checks so you don't need to provide this stuff every time, apparently Blizzard can implement this but not SE. Cumbersome login processes always forces bad security habits by users.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurikai View Post
    Using OTP with FFXIV login is painful, bad enough you need to enter password every time, but OTP also. There's a thing called OAuth that issues security tokens once you pass all authentication checks so you don't need to provide this stuff every time, apparently Blizzard can implement this but not SE. Cumbersome login processes always forces bad security habits by users.
    Convenience and security are ever on opposite sides of a spectrum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    I either buy my own sandwich or I end up with pork-nostrils.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    Convenience and security are ever on opposite sides of a spectrum.
    No they aren't, OAuth is easily fixes this, this isn't host based security, doubt you have a clue about IAM systems, so not surprised you would say something that naive.

    Lots of banks and other institutions use that same technology to ease logins, even Office 365 does, even Blizzard, so you're just making excuses for SE spending poorly on security because you lack knowledge of how it works.
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    Last edited by Aurikai; 10-08-2022 at 11:15 AM.

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    Last edited by SaberMaxwell; 10-08-2022 at 11:18 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    I either buy my own sandwich or I end up with pork-nostrils.

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    No you stated a blanket statement that had nothing to do with the topic at hand, which was OAuth would make it easier for users to login. Saying nothing is 100% secure is like saying you should never drive or fly because cars aren't 100% safe, it's pointless thinking and completely dismissive. You can make excuses for SE not implementing that technology all you want, nothing you've said has provided any relevant counter arguments for why they shouldn't.
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