It sounds like plain old ignorance. In the case of alliance raids, it might be laziness. Maybe they don't think to macro for the 4th position and bump their partner up the party list.Shouldn't need to be said (again), but... if you want to MT... grab everything. Yes, all the adds. As OT my stance isn't going on (eff tank aggro wars) unless there are big adds that absolutely need to be kept apart... or another tank refuses to grab all the small fry adds... in which case I'm grabbing them and dragging them over to the main group so everyone can aoe them down. Zero reason to keep everything apart in something like the lvl 50 raids, for example. Come on. Bad enough those keep popping instead of something else... When one of them pops I take my lumps and just suffer through it, but I'd rather spend as little time in them as possible.
Another thing... anecdotal I know, but I've seen a lot of DRGs not putting Dragon Sight on anyone. Why...? Takes a few seconds to target someone. Granted, things can get a bit hectic at times and people forget here and there(me!), but I've consistently seen the buff on the DRG in the party window and no one else for entire fights. I don't get it.![]()
Got Troia today, after the first “boss” fight the healer disconnected but we carried on.
This awesome warrior tank pulled wall to wall with no problems, held herself alive throughout everything, we winded up finishing the dungeon just her, a monk and me (dnc). It was amazing to see it possible but also a bit concerning at how unnecessary a healer becomes with a warrior that knows what he’s doing haha.
Sounds like a savage raider. It gets ridiculous when they show up in their gear.Got Troia today, after the first “boss” fight the healer disconnected but we carried on.
This awesome warrior tank pulled wall to wall with no problems, held herself alive throughout everything, we winded up finishing the dungeon just her, a monk and me (dnc). It was amazing to see it possible but also a bit concerning at how unnecessary a healer becomes with a warrior that knows what he’s doing haha.
Nah. That's just WAR in general. You can trounce that place in 610s easily. None of the pulls in there require any sort of input from a healer so long as the DPS aren't asleep at their keyboards and nobody stands in dumb. In fact, even some standing in dumb is fine because of Nascent Glint and Shake it Off.
Last edited by Absimiliard; 10-06-2022 at 02:14 AM.
I've seen warriors that couldn't manage this.Nah. That's just WAR in general. You can trounce that place in 610s easily. None of the pulls in there require any sort of input from a healer so long as the DPS aren't asleep at their keyboards and nobody stands in dumb. In fact, even some standing in dumb is fine because of Nascent Glint and Shake it Off.
Of course there are WARs that can't manage that. It doesn't matter how low you set the bar, someone will limbo dance with it.
Experts have always been a joke, you could do expert runs without a healer with a WAR or PLD in ShB and if the dps were really good even on GNB. The incoming damage is pitiful even for a whole group that barely meets the requirements but if someone has some crafted gear, they'll delete the entire place.



So we're three wipes into Dzemael Darkhold because the tank isn't geared, does multi-pulls, tanks outside of the crystal veil, but right next to the orange crystals that periodically spam AoEs. And then this happens:
https://imgur.com/a/R91bYFx
I was playing as a Sage, btw. Incidentally, I wasn't just DPSing. I was tanking pretty much the whole time, too, because in addition to going down like a lead balloon, they couldn't hold aggro. I guess they were mad because I didn't go down with the team on the first pack and managed to successfully solo it (amazing how much more you can tolerate when you actually stand inside the crystal veil). On the particular pull before this happened, I foolishly ran past the orange crystals of death and into the next pack in anticipation that since the tank wasn't pulling back they were going to push forward past them. The joke was on me because they opted to tank right inside the two of them instead.
Last edited by Ronduwil; 10-06-2022 at 09:55 AM.


So just got out of a CF run in roulette and had a 90 WHM that kept Rescuing me when it wasn't needed while I was on BRD.
"Sorry misclick bro!" you said.
Sure. You did it 3 times and nearly got me killed twice. While I appreciate the thought on the first one as a misclick, the two other times made it seem like intentional trolling. I hope you step on a Lego when you get out of bed.
This one is beyond your help. Only sleep can save her now.
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