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  1. #191
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    I liked Endwalker from a story perspective, but I didn't like the repetitiveness of gameplay that has been going on at least since Heavensward (maybe arguably since ARR, but it was a lot more diverse back then).

    I don't understand why they don't want to experiment and try new things at least up until recently anyway, maybe they understood the situation now hopefully?
    They do experiment and try new things, have done since Heavensward with Diadem and Deep Dungeon, they just don't really mess with the core of MSQ, dungeons, trials, and raids.
    Given how well some of their experiments have gone over, it's probably for the best that their experiments with new things are mostly side content.

    Can you imagine if instead of being side content, they saved it up and made it the focus of Stormblood. Every main area was like the original Diadem with all the dungeons being deep dungeons.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 10-05-2022 at 08:39 PM.

  2. #192
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    Ameela Trussa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    I liked Endwalker from a story perspective, but I didn't like the repetitiveness of gameplay that has been going on at least since Heavensward (maybe arguably since ARR, but it was a lot more diverse back then).

    I don't understand why they don't want to experiment and try new things at least up until recently anyway, maybe they understood the situation now hopefully?
    I mean, they do to a certain extent.
    Has everyone already forgotten the plethora of tailing missions in EW? Or how about the fish selling mini game? Or unique solo duties like In from the Cold and the siege of Garlemald? There's also a quest where you turn into a frog - this is on top of the already-existing variety mini games too like the carriage stuff and darts shooting.
    Now is this the most terribly engaging content in the world? Probably not, but the devs still try to add some degree of variety to the MSQ with each expansion.
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  3. #193
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameela View Post
    I mean, they do to a certain extent.
    Has everyone already forgotten the plethora of tailing missions in EW? Or how about the fish selling mini game? Or unique solo duties like In from the Cold and the siege of Garlemald? There's also a quest where you turn into a frog - this is on top of the already-existing variety mini games too like the carriage stuff and darts shooting.
    Now is this the most terribly engaging content in the world? Probably not, but the devs still try to add some degree of variety to the MSQ with each expansion.
    I mean I don’t think companion chat missions really compare to something like eureka

    14 has always innovated in the side content and the side content is getting sidelined further and further every expansion
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  4. #194
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    Yes I am disappointed that you posted. EW is a great expac but your post lacks intelligence and and doesn't provide solutions.
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  5. #195
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameela View Post
    I mean, they do to a certain extent.
    Has everyone already forgotten the plethora of tailing missions in EW? Or how about the fish selling mini game? Or unique solo duties like In from the Cold and the siege of Garlemald? There's also a quest where you turn into a frog - this is on top of the already-existing variety mini games too like the carriage stuff and darts shooting.
    Now is this the most terribly engaging content in the world? Probably not, but the devs still try to add some degree of variety to the MSQ with each expansion.
    I think the timing of the introduction to the new mechanics could be better.

    Since the RP duties were introduced in 4.3, we got a chance to get used to them over several months and give some feedback for adjustments so when they were part of the 5.0 MSQ they seemed a more natural part of the MSQ flow.

    Compare that to the escort/tailing quests. They were dumped on us in a mass that was experienced over 1-2 weeks and rather disruptive to the flow of the MSQ because they were new to us. They did go back and change how the escort duties worked after the fact in response to player feedback but that doesn't change the memory of how annoying they were during what was the most important part of the MSQ story arc. If they had introduced them post 5.0 MSQ instead, they would have already corrected the complaints players had and we would have found them a more normal activity for the 6.0 MSQ.
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  6. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    I think the timing of the introduction to the new mechanics could be better.

    Since the RP duties were introduced in 4.3, we got a chance to get used to them over several months and give some feedback for adjustments so when they were part of the 5.0 MSQ they seemed a more natural part of the MSQ flow.

    Compare that to the escort/tailing quests. They were dumped on us in a mass that was experienced over 1-2 weeks and rather disruptive to the flow of the MSQ because they were new to us. They did go back and change how the escort duties worked after the fact in response to player feedback but that doesn't change the memory of how annoying they were during what was the most important part of the MSQ story arc. If they had introduced them post 5.0 MSQ instead, they would have already corrected the complaints players had and we would have found them a more normal activity for the 6.0 MSQ.
    Timing is something you normally can't plan for, there's only so much you can control. It's either do or you don't. Yeah it was annoying at the beginning but they fixed it to be less of a hassle and that's all I'm gonna care about rather than stick to the past and be like "yeah it shouldn't have happen". It's pointless
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  7. #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by sagacious View Post
    Yes I am disappointed that you posted. EW is a great expac but your post lacks intelligence and and doesn't provide solutions.
    And the award for most irrelevant post goes to...

    Seriously what does this contribute other than just to attack/insult someone?
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  8. #198
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    I've enjoyed the expansion, honestly. New raids have all been fun, savage and the 24-player raid. Aside from Endsinger Extreme, the new trials have been fun. There are some interesting sounding 4 player dungeons coming up soon. I had fun with Island Sanctuary, and hope more gets added as I'm just in a cowrie farming position now. The OP just sounds like someone salty that there isn't instance housing for everyone - something I hope they never add by the way. I like the neighborhoods of houses, wandering around and bumping into other residents and talking to them.

    It sucks that some FCs or wealthy players have monopolized wards for ??? reason. Make a post about doing something about that and you'd have my support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sagacious View Post
    Yes I am disappointed that you posted. EW is a great expac but your post lacks intelligence and and doesn't provide solutions.
    We don't get paid to design the game, coming up with solutions to problems in the game is not on us.

    Our responsibility is to voice our concerns, good or bad, and the dev team takes them and does what they will with them.
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  10. #200
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    And the award for most irrelevant post goes to...

    Seriously what does this contribute other than just to attack/insult someone?
    If another person claims the critics of EW are all just haters and throwing insults than i can put up that message. That is what it contributes
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    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

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