Anyone else just feeling really disapointed this expansion?*vent*

[Atelier-Bagur]

Uh, I think the term live service kind of went over your head. One google search of the definition, and this is what you get. ”A live service game is a game that sees a constant stream of new content added post launch, and is purposefully designed to keep you playing years after launch. This is unlike traditional single-player games, which can be completed in a set number of hours. Such content can vary drastically”.
Now, I understand what Yoshi was saying by telling people to take a break, but it also comes off to me as a veiled sentence meaning that this game isn’t their main project and as such “don’t expect too much”. But hey, I guess we shouldn’t expect much for a game we pay monthly for /s

And I find it increasingly odd they’d keep saying that when this game’s profits were a huge chunk of Squares recent earnings. I’m looking forward to ff16 mostly at this point. I hope it will be good.

People seem to fail to understand the context behind what Yoshida actually means with that statement. He meant taking breaks because unlike most other MMOs, FFXIV doesn't have predatory grindy systems to keep players from turning the game into a job rather than a hobby. Which is a common practice negative aspect with many endgame systems.

In FFXIV, you have achievable endgame goals that don't necessarily require you to be glued on 24/7 to progress, which is also why they encourage other players to take their time. It's probably why this game manages to have healthy number of subs because of its approachability and game design. It clearly has worked considering how popular this game has become.

However I'm not foolish enough to think it's gotten so because of just that. It's just one of big factors for it's success.

[hagare]

You were the one being pedantic about another player being here for 10 years. Any 1.0 user could qualify, and with ARR only being able to exist because of those players by Yoshi-P own admission, yes, this is relevant.

stating objective fact is being pedantic now.
Then I call you a liar for calling ARR and 1.0 the same game
or barring that, a disingenuous person

[IkaraGreydancer]

In reality, the moment a positive thread appears, the community positivity brigade rushes in to spam it with "Uh oh, watch out OP, here come the negative people!", "bet this won't last lol <popcorn>", "Finally some positivity, everyone is so negative" and other passive aggressive digs at people who complain before a complaint is even posted, then the moment someone dares point out that negative feedback is fine too, they all gleefully jump on them and tear them to pieces and the thread gets derailed.

It's rather disturbing behavior really and suggests a far stronger need for irl help.

You basically just described the opposite side of what youre talking about. I've seen PLENTY of negative threads where folks say things like "here's comes the critism police/whiteknights". And the moment someone says they like something they don't it's dogpile season. I remember when folks were saying they like healing currently n folks jumped on em and said they had crap standards n such. Stop acting like this is one sided cause it's not.

"Finally some positivity, everyone is so negative" isn't passive aggressive at all. Some folks just genuinely like to see some positivity when the boards are full of the opposite. Just saying

[Shuuli]

This game has many other contents currently running - New Ultiamte, New PvP rewards, New Raid tier, New fishes to catch.

You may not like any of these contents, but you cannot deny that there IS content.

I have a job, and I am slowly trying to clear the raid tier. I barely have time to do anything else on weekly things.

If I wouldn't do raiding, I would probably do something else that is on plan for me, but it is true that I am a late joiner. So I am not sure how many ARR relics and Eureka gear you have, I still miss most and I still miss 2 HW relic and a few ShB. But plan to get them all.

I can understand that if you have done all of these, or you don't like some of the mentioned content, then you will be bored.

But hey, Overwatch 2 just came out, good luck entering with the 20K queue and disconnects from the server :P

[Supersnow845]

As a legacy player I’m still recovering from being told that the game isn’t ten years old from 5 pages ago

But on the subject of legacy since there isn’t many of us left. Firstly let me just put this out here first LEGACY WAS ABSOLUTE WHITE HOT GARBAGE. Now that that is out of the way, I can at least appreciate the game attempted to innovate during that time, it was all the wrong innovations but for all its faults at least it felt somewhat different, the last time modern 14 got a new system was probably when they gave us logos in eureka which was like 4 years ago. At the age 14 is now and for how many years I’ve been playing it I’d rather they take a big risk and aim for a revitalisation of the game over 5 more copycat expansions with random slightly connected stories that could each be a stand alone FF game then go into maintenance mode in 2030 but that opinion could be totally biased by the fact I’ve been playing for so long

[ReynTime]

As a legacy player I’m still recovering from being told that the game isn’t ten years old from 5 pages ago

But on the subject of legacy since there isn’t many of us left. Firstly let me just put this out here first LEGACY WAS ABSOLUTE WHITE HOT GARBAGE. Now that that is out of the way, I can at least appreciate the game attempted to innovate during that time, it was all the wrong innovations but for all its faults at least it felt somewhat different, the last time modern 14 got a new system was probably when they gave us logos in eureka which was like 4 years ago. At the age 14 is now and for how many years I’ve been playing it I’d rather they take a big risk and aim for a revitalisation of the game over 5 more copycat expansions with random slightly connected stories that could each be a stand alone FF game then go into maintenance mode in 2030 but that opinion could be totally biased by the fact I’ve been playing for so long

Not on the official forums. Many of us don't bother with the public outings of the community and I myself am not even using my original account.

And speak for yourself. Legacy was lacking and boring at times but speaking for my circle of ex XIV players its highs in gameplay were far better than Endwalker.

[VelKallor]

or a story conclusion that was as catastrophic as Endwalker’s was.

Theres you...and theres the rest who enjoyed it. You know, the millions who are happy playing and dont post here?

Dont project, Aveyond , it isnt a good look.

[Supersnow845]

Theres you...and theres the rest who enjoyed it. You know, the millions who are happy playing and dont post here?

Dont project, Aveyond , it isnt a good look.

And what about the “millions of people” who hated it and don’t post on this forum or who hated it and dropped the game because of it

Don’t project, velkallor, it isn’t a good look

[Raoabolic]

And what about the “millions of people” who hated it and don’t post on this forum or who hated it and dropped the game because of it

Don’t project, velkallor, it isn’t a good look

Oh come on, don't be surprised that double standards is common place. Do we really need to drag out the "MW2 Boycot" image? lol

[VelKallor]

And what about the “millions of people” who hated it and don’t post on this forum or who hated it and dropped the game because of it

Same as the opposite, really. Dont know either way. I do know that the people who post here arent representative of anything and as for Aveyond, someone who says the current game is worse than 1.0 cant be taken seriously.