Please don't harass people for ignoring/disliking the story

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

By catering to twitter players who by now are probably now knee-deep in Disney Dreamlight Valley instead of staying in FFXIV.

I guess an Advanced Scholarly Civilization shouldn't be intelligent enough to use a stovetop to Grill a slab of Meat, create Cheese that they can cut a thin slice of and add on top of the meat. As well as chop Vegis to add to that, create Ketchup or any sort of Condiments, and put the cooked meat with the mentioned above between 2 slices of Bread.
Creating what we call a Sandwich.....or whats also known as a Hamburger.

Nah, that's just Disney Magic Created by Twitter People that dont play FFXIV.
........thought I was the unreasonable one.

[Ameela]

Actually the first burger was made in the 1880s.

It's a heated debate in both the historical community and the culinary community since you've got to pinpoint exactly what can be constituted as a hamburger, so theoretically it can be anywhere from 1880 to 1905.
If it turns out to have been 1905 then there would have been airplanes in the world before hamburgers.

[RukoBoshi]

I guess an Advanced Scholarly Civilization shouldn't be intelligent enough to use a stovetop to Grill a slab of Meat, create Cheese that they can cut a thin slice of and add on top of the meat. As well as chop Vegis to add to that, create Ketchup or any sort of Condiments, and put the cooked meat with the mentioned above between 2 slices of Bread.
Creating what we call a Sandwich.....or whats also known as a Hamburger.

Nah, that's just Disney Magic Created by Twitter People that dont play FFXIV.
........thought I was the unreasonable one.

Sure they secretly made a scifi Spacecraft that took it's first flight to the edge of the universe and back, but i draw the line at meat between buns !

[Ameela]

Debatable. The invention of the hamburger is a little vague, but it's generally considered to be sometime in the late 1800s to the early 1900s. The Wright brothers flew their first airplane in 1903. Cars are a little harder to pin down, depending if you count steam-powered vehicles or just gasoline-powered automobiles. Boats have been around for thousands of years, which is why I didn't actually mention them in my previous post.

Of course, my real point was that it's a fantasy setting, not real-world medieval times, so our world's history is irrelevant, but.

The fact that it is a fantasy world means it makes even less sense since (presumably) hamburgers exist and are denominated as such because of a particular location!
There is no Hamburg in Eorzea, so where does the word hamburger come from?!

[aveyond-dreams]

You are proving me right. No, your opinion has never been validated by the history of this game.

I correctly called out the Eureka, Blue Mage, Limited Races, and Endwalker controversies. When my counsel has been heeded, the game does well. When it flies in the face of them, catastrophe has ensued.

[SannaR]

It's a heated debate in both the historical community and the culinary community since you've got to pinpoint exactly what can be constituted as a hamburger, so theoretically it can be anywhere from 1880 to 1905.
If it turns out to have been 1905 then there would have been airplanes in the world before hamburgers.

True. Though you can also argue on where you want to draw the line at when modern times started as some would say nothing before the early 1900's. Anyway we probably shouldn't derail the thread more than it already is being?

[TheMightyMollusk]

The fact that it is a fantasy world means it makes even less sense since (presumably) hamburgers exist and are denominated as such because of a particular location!
There is no Hamburg in Eorzea, so where does the word hamburger come from?!

The game is loaded with things named after places, peoples, or historical events that never happened on Etherys. Focusing on hamburgers as if they're the only thing to do so is silly.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

1. I have been right about numerous things throughout this game's lifespan and have yet to be proven wrong by history. Did you think this was my first time being the subject of this community's ire, only to be vindicated later on?

2. The version of me that exists inside their heads is not my responsibility. I have no reason to advocate for things that do not benefit or concern me in the slightest.

I call that which I see by what it is. Nothing more and nothing less. This isn't a story that will be remembered with the same fondness as that of Heavensward and Shadowbringers. Unless things start improving, it will be seen as the turning point which broke FFXIV.

Feel free to give examples.
Several times you claim to always be right, but then when somebody asks you to bring proof of concept and prove your claims. you go silent and disappear.
Or you indirectly just talk crap about people and how they arnt worth your time.

If your gonna bring up that the game has a lower playerbase now compared to when the expansion started...DO, DUH. It happens to EVERY game. This isn't magic proof of your claims.
Sometimes people just want to see whats new, and go. Sometimes people are interested in one thing..they get it, and go. Some people have lives outside of a video game or play other games, they dont have time or have other interests atm, they Disappear.

I correctly called out the Eureka, Blue Mage, Limited Races, and Endwalker controversies. When my counsel has been heeded, the game does well. When it flies in the face of them, catastrophe has ensued.

LMAO the uncontrolable Ego.
You think you were the only person who talked about Eureka, bluemage and Limited races?
Those things were called out by more people then you dude. And what councel did you give that made the game better? And do you have direct proof that You were specifically listened to or are the sole reason for anything?

[Merrigan]

I correctly called out the Eureka, Blue Mage, Limited Races, and Endwalker controversies. When my counsel has been heeded, the game does well. When it flies in the face of them, catastrophe has ensued.

You only see what suits you, and not the rest. You were right about some things; well done. A lot of us have done this, because when you know a game you are bound to be relevant on certain points. But you forget everything else. The points you were wrong about.

To give you just one example (and not to continue on a tangent), I found your comparison between the Warriors of Darkness and the Scions very bad, because it ignores all the most basic story mechanics. What next? What exactly do we conclude from this? That I'm a fool, and you're the misunderstood genius who's always right?

[aveyond-dreams]

You only see what suits you, and not the rest. You were right about some things; well done. A lot of us have done this, because when you know a game you are bound to be relevant on certain points. But you forget everything else. The points you were wrong about.

To give you just one example (and not to continue on a tangent), I found your comparison between the Warriors of Darkness and the Scions very bad, because it ignores all the most basic story mechanics.

The basic story mechanics of character arcs having a beginning, middle, and end with some compelling moments in between and holding on to that growth? Apologies but as far as I'm concerned I was right in that post as well. Bonus points for the visual diversity that party had as opposed to the Scions.