So I got the IS motorcycle and am island level 10.... Now what?

[Darthgummibear]

I dunno does liking facts make me angry? You ever gonna admit being full of shit or is that too much for your ego so you need to constantly deflect trying to paint me as an angry person calling people out so disconnected on reality that they literally invent things because they can't bear to just have an opinion that actually isn't shared by the majority xD.

I repeat I don't like islands all that much but pretending that they had overwhelming negative reception is the peak of delusion. A normal well adjusted person would be 100% fine admitting that their viewpoint might not be shared instead of trying to discredit everyone not sharing that viewpoint xD.
But hey I know you're just gonna do another "u mad?" post cause as already demonstrated there is no substance to anything regular posters on this forum say. Like if pretending against reality that any and all aspects of the game are in some dire state of being hated by the majority of the community isn't the peak of just being angry to the point of delusion I dunno what is. *shrug*



When I read the JP forums any criticism I see is generally expressed like normal functioning adults would. Like of course I've not read the entire forum so maybe people can dig up like those 20 post over the last several years where people went full 5chan mode but in general I don't see like threads lying about the state of the game, painting the devs as incompetent, trying to stir up drama where there just isn't any. It's actually generally pleasant to read, whereas honestly I see no value to any dev reading the English forum. It's just full of hyperbole, toxicity, rudeness and frustrated manbabies. You need to sift through a sea of literal trash to find like those 10% good post.
Like the worst part is, it's not like the actual points behind all the crying are wrong or bad but it just gets generally lost in how entitled things are expressed lacking any degree of empathy to other viewpoints or the dev perspective.

Thanks for proving my point. I hope you find some peace in life.

[aveyond-dreams]

I think it's time for the player's perspective to be considered first and foremost before any dev's.

[Jojoya]

apples are a recipe for a workshop item will need them for this weeks workshop plan.

That's assuming someone is following that plan and making that specific item. Not everyone is interested in doing the content as a spreadsheet simulator for max efficiency.

The previous advice for players trying to maintain their pasture using the mammets is good. Use the Greenfeed made from the crops instead of the Sweetfeed made from apples. I wouldn't even bother with the Premium Greenfeed. I'd suggest using the normal Greenfeed since it requires half as many crops but you still get a chance at the extra Leaving (seems to be about 30% at Chipper compared to about 80% at Gleeful though that's just personal experience, not sure about percentages over a larger sample).

Someone who only needs the apples for the Pickled Radish recipe will probably get enough from the foraging mammets if they're using them.

I think it's time for the player's perspective to be considered first and foremost before any dev's.

You're going to end up with a crappy game if those making it have no passion for what they're doing because they don't share that vision but are stuck dancing to someone's puppet strings.

I think it's time for players to realize that not every game is going to appeal to them. Rather than expect a specific game to change to what they want just because they keep mindlessly throwing money at the game, they should seek out the games that already deliver what they want and throw their money at those games instead.

[Boblawblah]

What point? The point about how overwhelming negativity exist in your dream world about islands? xD Certainly not proven.
Kinda weird to be this stubborn on a thing that is very easy to check for yourself but I guess it speaks to the maturity of this place how a regular like you can't accept reality

Everything I claimed about the JP forum and the other places is very easy to check. Everything you claimed is just pure delusion and all your responses have boiled down to "u mad? Look how smart I am" very much for some reason never addressing your false claims, makes you really think.
Like anyone just type into youtube "island sanctuary sucks" and see how much you find *eyeroll*.
Is truly no surprise that with such substance behind your arguments that this place has the reputation it has and the sad thing people like you are like dime a dozen on here.

Looking forward to your next response that deflects away again from how you can't conjure anything to back up your claims of overwhelming negativity x).

I too hope you find some peace in your life the next time you angrily invent something to be mad about in this forum and pretend like the whole world shares that opinion cause clearly you ain't give no fucks about actual reality xD

What's with all the low post accounts that are super aggressive lately? I'm newish myself and disagree often with people, but wow, if you want to participate in a forum, maybe not attacking everyone in sight might be a better tactic.

[aveyond-dreams]

I think it's time for players to realize that not every game is going to appeal to them. Rather than expect a specific game to change to what they want just because they keep mindlessly throwing money at the game, they should seek out the games that already deliver what they want and throw their money at those games instead.

Then pray tell why was Island Sanctuary added to a game that was supposed to be more story and combat focused? The people who are into Island Sanctuary like things already had their games, why were resources wasted here in catering to them? FFXIV changed to fit *them* and away from its core fanbase when it comes to both content and story in EW.

You would never have sold me Heavensward if I knew 10 years later I'd be dealing with this level of battle content drought while the story becomes more and more like the high school manga that became a thing japan. The only thing missing is Estinien going on about dried squid.

[Darthgummibear]

I mean I'm responding in the exact same manner that seemed to be accepted in this part of the forum. If that seems bothersome maybe people reflect a little and we all can actually talk to each other like adults and give criticism like adults and also look at reality like adults.

But since that didn't happen from the initial post why is there any surprise about when you express yourself like a giant reality denying baby you'll get responses making fun of that.

Like a normal person would just express themselves saying I think islands were really lacking (*gasp dang that actually sounds like something I myself agree with... shock*).
But on here that's not enough no we have to say that there exist overwhelming negativity about how lackluster islands were. Trust me bro.
Yep that's definitely how a normal person expresses themselves and definitely does not deserve any type of pushback xD like come on if you can't like understand that yall been to deep in the bubble that is this place, maybe talk to normal humans outside the internet for a bit to get in touch with how you likely should express yourself and then bring that back to here .

Also consider that I gave this an actual response cause if I was displaying the same amount of braincells as I was met with I could have just went "u mad bro? Hope you doing alright".

You don't want an adult conversation. You want an excuse to write long-winded diatribes against everyone who doesn't agree with you.

[TwistedTea]

The previous advice for players trying to maintain their pasture using the mammets is good. Use the Greenfeed made from the crops instead of the Sweetfeed made from apples. I wouldn't even bother with the Premium Greenfeed. I'd suggest using the normal Greenfeed since it requires half as many crops but you still get a chance at the extra Leaving (seems to be about 30% at Chipper compared to about 80% at Gleeful though that's just personal experience, not sure about percentages over a larger sample).

Someone who only needs the apples for the Pickled Radish recipe will probably get enough from the foraging mammets if they're using them.

Gleeful - 80%
Chipper - 50%
Content - 25%
Unhappy - 15%
Hostile - 0%

Large sample size

Source : Island Sanctuary discord

Where Island Greenfeed really shines is with automated crops/pasture because it lets you setup your cropland like this, 14 premium seeds/ 6 gathered seeds:

3 Radishes/3 Wheat/ 2 each of the other premium seeds
2 Cabbages/2 Pumpkins
1 Parsnip/1 Potpoto

This results in meeting/exceeding the weekly crop softcaps and leavings softcap(assuming Balanced Pasture) for workshop crafts.

It also results in surplus Island Greenfeed crafted only using Cabbages/Pumpkins as they have the lowest Export value at 4 Blues.

The 3rd Radish/3rd Wheat plot is up to individuals for which premium seeds they would like to plant.

The 2 additional premium seed plots using a 14/6 Island Greenfeed setup are purely for Export/stockpiling once weekly softcaps have been accounted for.

[Boblawblah]

Then pray tell why was Island Sanctuary added to a game that was supposed to be more story and combat focused? The people who are into Island Sanctuary like things already had their games, why were resources wasted here in catering to them? FFXIV changed to fit *them* and away from its core fanbase when it comes to both content and story in EW.

You would never have sold me Heavensward if I knew 10 years later I'd be dealing with this level of battle content drought while the story becomes more and more like the high school manga that became a thing japan. The only thing missing is Estinien going on about dried squid.

Sunk cost fallacy is a hell of a drug eh? Only one solution to it.

[Jojoya]

Then pray tell why was Island Sanctuary added to a game that was supposed to be more story and combat focused? The people who are into Island Sanctuary like things already had their games, why were resources wasted here in catering to them? FFXIV changed to fit *them* and away from its core fanbase when it comes to both content and story in EW.

You would never have sold me Heavensward if I knew 10 years later I'd be dealing with this level of battle content drought while the story becomes more and more like the high school manga that became a thing japan. The only thing missing is Estinien going on about dried squid.

Because they decided it would be a good addition to their theme park MMO as something different?

Out of curiosity, at the time you purchased Heavensward were you genuinely purchasing it with the assumption that FFXIV would still be around 10 years later, or did you buy it because it seemed like something fun to do at the time and you had no real expectations about its future status? Expecting any online game to be around 10 years later is a bit of a stretch considering how rapidly technology changes and how fickle players can be.

Gleeful - 80%
Chipper - 50%
Content - 25%
Unhappy - 15%
Hostile - 0%

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Thanks for sharing this info. Seem even better than I expected.

meh none of that matters. Even not optimized you get tons of cowries and very little to spend them on. Last time I bothered with the workshop I made 4.6k in day and it could have been more. Never bothered growing anything other than pumpkin and cabbage save for the few popoto/ parsnip seeds I got from initial garhering.

There may not be much variety at the vendor but there are things to buy with them once you've got the expensive rewards out of the way.

Glamour prisms/dispellers, dyes and DoH/DoL materia represent things that can save you some gil if you need them for personal use, or can be sold on the MB to make gil if you don't. It's just a few minutes a week for someone who enjoys the island content while the prices aren't so fantastic that someone who doesn't enjoy the island would feel forced to do it every week when they can get those same items another way.

We also know that more content is being added to IS later this expansion, and that will likely mean more rewards as well.

[Deceptus]

Gleeful - 80%
Chipper - 50%
Content - 25%
Unhappy - 15%
Hostile - 0%

Large sample size

Source : Island Sanctuary discord

Where Island Greenfeed really shines is with automated crops/pasture because it lets you setup your cropland like this, 14 premium seeds/ 6 gathered seeds:

3 Radishes/3 Wheat/ 2 each of the other premium seeds
2 Cabbages/2 Pumpkins
1 Parsnip/1 Potpoto

This results in meeting/exceeding the weekly crop softcaps and leavings softcap(assuming Balanced Pasture) for workshop crafts.

It also results in surplus Island Greenfeed crafted only using Cabbages/Pumpkins as they have the lowest Export value at 4 Blues.

The 3rd Radish/3rd Wheat plot is up to individuals for which premium seeds they would like to plant.

The 2 additional premium seed plots using a 14/6 Island Greenfeed setup are purely for Export/stockpiling once weekly softcaps have been accounted for.

I thought in general the garden plots were basically just mean to provide food for the pasture. Most of the big cowrie makers use pasture items, not veggies.