Garlean Third Eye Customization option

[Absimiliard]

It wasn't from the short story. The text referring to him as a proper Garlean is in-game. This would also be one of the areas of conflict I mentioned in my prior post. SE had quite a few little mishaps like that floating around in the game. It was common enough knowledge that people used to argue about his in-game model's seeming lack of a third eye.

[Graeham]

The third eye option it is good for the rp. But is not enough on the own. Sometimes the Garlean wearing the masks. Sometimes they wearing the sun glass. I like play the Garlean with the third eye but I can not find the monocle for it. Is sad.

[Ameela]

It wasn't from the short story. The text referring to him as a proper Garlean is in-game. This would also be one of the areas of conflict I mentioned in my prior post. SE had quite a few little mishaps like that floating around in the game. It was common enough knowledge that people used to argue about his in-game model's seeming lack of a third eye.

Maybe I missed it but it really doesn't seem like they ever call him a pure-blooded Garlean in-game.

[Absimiliard]

Again, I have already conceded of my own volition the instances of him being referred to as a Garlean conflicting with other in-game text and events. At no point was this disputed. Nor am I disputing the rest of your assertions surrounding him.

What I am disputing is your apparent assertion that no in-game text refers to him as Garlean. I furthermore am disputing your assertion of there being no way for Garlean customization options to be integrated without conflicting. Rather curious you chose not to respond to those, instead focusing only on something I'd already made concessions on before you ever even got around to it.

Now, to try and steer this back before the thread gets derailed like most threads covering certain subject matter:
The reality is that, from a development perspective, glamour options would probably be easier to implement than additional racial traits. We've already got a pretty good idea of how obnoxiously difficult it is for them to do anything with the races, provided we take developer statements on the matter at face value. As nice as new customization options would be, requesting Garlean-themed glamour does seem far more likely to get the desired result. If not third eyes, hopefully we can at least get some proper Garlean armor now that they aren't the WoL's designated punching bag anymore.

[MikkoAkure]

While the EE says "the arcane arts have ever eluded all but a few" Garleans, the story in-game itself treats it as an absolute that they can't manipulate aether whatsoever with no exceptions. I was under the impression that line meant that despite the inability to manipulate aether, some Garleans were still able to study the arcane arts. Otherwise they wouldn't be able to make technology to replicate and even supplant it. Even if we had a super special unique flower Garlean WoL, the MSQ treats even half-Garleans with scorn and pure Garleans like Cid hide their third eye 24/7. A Garlean pureblood running around without a care or dialogue makes little sense in ARR and even less in SB.

That said, I'm personally surprised we got no Garlean third-eye glam piece in Endwalker. One of my expectations for the Garlemald section of the MSQ was an infiltration mission like the ones we had in ARR and SB where we don a uniform. There could have even been snarky dialogue if you were something like a Lalafell, Miqo'te, Au ra, Viera, or Hrothgar with a fake third-eye. After we didn't get that, I thought they might at least throw it in as a bicolor tomestone reward. It would be extremely easy to throw in the game and satisfy a section of the playerbase. Perhaps even make creating a Garlean NPCs even lazier in the future if they just take a character you can make in character creator and slap the eye on them as equipment or a fashion item instead of having to create a face with the Garlean eye feature.

[Atelier-Bagur]

While the EE says "the arcane arts have ever eluded all but a few" Garleans, the story in-game itself treats it as an absolute that they can't manipulate aether whatsoever with no exceptions. I was under the impression that line meant that despite the inability to manipulate aether, some Garleans were still able to study the arcane arts. Otherwise they wouldn't be able to make technology to replicate and even supplant it. Even if we had a super special unique flower Garlean WoL, the MSQ treats even half-Garleans with scorn and pure Garleans like Cid hide their third eye 24/7. A Garlean pureblood running around without a care or dialogue makes little sense in ARR and even less in SB.

That said, I'm personally surprised we got no Garlean third-eye glam piece in Endwalker. One of my expectations for the Garlemald section of the MSQ was an infiltration mission like the ones we had in ARR and SB where we done a uniform. There could have even been snarky dialogue if you were something like a Lalafell, Miqo'te, Au ra, Viera, or Hrothgar with a fake third-eye. After we didn't get that, I thought they might at least throw it in as a bicolor tomestone reward. It would be extremely easy to throw in the game and satisfy a section of the playerbase. Perhaps even make creating a Garlean NPCs even lazier in the future if they just take a character you can make in character creator and slap the eye on them as equipment or a fashion item instead of having to create a face with the Garlean eye feature.

isnt that already the case with the Garlean NPCs you do meet in the Garlemald zone? For the most part they're midlander Hyurs with the eye slapped in the middle of their foreheads, so the work is already half way there. I assume the facetype is still a custom model though

[MikkoAkure]

isnt that already the case with the Garlean NPCs you do meet in the Garlemald zone? For the most part they're midlander Hyurs with the eye slapped in the middle of their foreheads, so the work is already half way there. I assume the facetype is still a custom model though

They seem to make unique face models for the Garlean NPCs, even if they're just midlander bodies and even if other than the eye, it looks like something you could make yourself. There's a website out there that has tools to let you look at character data for NPCs like Midas nan Garlond, but I'm not sure how kosher it is to mention or link it directly here since it goes into the behind the scenes data of the game.

[Graeham]

The solution it is easy. They make the Hyur race with the subrace. The Garlemald becoming the subrace like the mid land and the high land. Is not the new race just the new face like the no eyebrow high land.

If this can not be done then make the new glamour spot to add the special item like the backpack or the third eye or the faking beard. If this also can not be done you make the tattoo option for the eye. So many way to make the rp more real.

Please do for the God King Solus.

[Absimiliard]

They seem to make unique face models for the Garlean NPCs, even if they're just midlander bodies and even if other than the eye, it looks like something you could make yourself. There's a website out there that has tools to let you look at character data for NPCs like Midas nan Garlond, but I'm not sure how kosher it is to mention or link it directly here since it goes into the behind the scenes data of the game.

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but it looked like the lion's share of random nobody pureblood NPCs we ran into in Garlemald were standard models using the usual assets, just with eyes stapled on. Now certain officers and other prominent story NPCs, yes, many of those were unique.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Not canonically

Show me the single canon Warrior of Light in the game and you'll have a point.