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  1. #11
    Player Knot_D's Avatar
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    Jock Destroyer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarkovitch View Post
    Yes, I know mouse and keyboard is master race on this game and controller is a feature on pc. However, exploits like on p8s wiggling camera on mouse keyboard and be able gcd without having the character looking on the boss is unfair for controller players. I do not know if it was intended to be this way or netcode strikes again. I strongly advice to add as feature on controller or patch it up mouse keyboard.

    https://twitter.com/mitsurugi137/sta...SNor6JgdA&s=19
    Gonna try this on The Fell Court of Troia's 2nd boss

    But yeah it's not an exploit, it's just netcode.jpg
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  2. #12
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    This just seems like a lot of work for little gain lol.
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  3. #13
    Player AwesomeJr44's Avatar
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    Marel Nobelle
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zarkovitch View Post
    However, exploits like on p8s wiggling camera on mouse keyboard and be able gcd without having the character looking on the boss is unfair for controller players.
    That's not an exploit, that's just an upside of using a mouse and keyboard. They sound like they're the same thing when you stretch the definitions a bit, but they're not.
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    Buka Chu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarkovitch View Post
    Yes, I know mouse and keyboard is master race on this game and controller is a feature on pc. However, exploits like on p8s wiggling camera on mouse keyboard and be able gcd without having the character looking on the boss is unfair for controller players. I do not know if it was intended to be this way or netcode strikes again. I strongly advice to add as feature on controller or patch it up mouse keyboard.

    https://twitter.com/mitsurugi137/sta...SNor6JgdA&s=19
    Yeah I agree, those pesky keyboard users are getting out of hand!!!

    Using mouse and keyboard is now bannable
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  5. #15
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    Packetdancer's Avatar
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    Khit Amariyo
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    That's not an exploit
    The analogy I've used before is to point to two imaginary players, one who lives close to the NA servers and another who lives in, like, Brazil. The person who lives close to the servers is going to have way better ping, and thus be able to react to mechanics with less chance of wonky snapshotting, and will be able to double-weave more reliably.

    Is it unfair? Sure; it sucks that one person will not be fighting the game's vaguely-cursed netcode—or, at least, will be fighting with it less—while the other has to struggle with terrible ping.

    But is it cheating, or an exploit? No.

    There's a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer
    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
    I aim to make my posts engaging and entertaining, even when you might not agree with me. And failing that, I'll just be very, VERY wordy.

  6. #16
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarkovitch View Post
    Yes, I know mouse and keyboard is master race on this game and controller is a feature on pc. However, exploits like on p8s wiggling camera on mouse keyboard and be able gcd without having the character looking on the boss is unfair for controller players. I do not know if it was intended to be this way or netcode strikes again. I strongly advice to add as feature on controller or patch it up mouse keyboard.

    https://twitter.com/mitsurugi137/sta...SNor6JgdA&s=19
    Unless theres something in that video im missing. You can do that on controller. You don't even need to wiggle that much. The only difference on the controller you don't need camera. Legacy movement points your character the direction of the left stick so can just wiggle that and dodge gaze attacks without breaking your gcds its something I've done for years even as far back as old mortal gaze in world of darkness. There's also an option in settings you can disable. "Autimatically face target when executing action" or something along those lines..
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  7. #17
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    Lieri's Avatar
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    Valesti Nibelung
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Mouse and keyboards are third parties unless if you bought them from SE kappa
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  8. #18
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    Ameela Trussa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    There's also an option in settings you can disable. "Autimatically face target when executing action" or something along those lines..
    If anyone is foolish enough to go into savage with this turned off you should be aware that this option exists because you need to be in a set position for your GCDs to work, so it simply puts you in that position automatically.
    If you turn it off you're gonna have to manually face the boss or lock on every time you wanna use an ability or it won't go off.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameela View Post
    If anyone is foolish enough to go into savage with this turned off you should be aware that this option exists because you need to be in a set position for your GCDs to work, so it simply puts you in that position automatically.
    If you turn it off you're gonna have to manually face the boss or lock on every time you wanna use an ability or it won't go off.
    If i recall although I may be wrong. That was changed a long time back when they made it so even auto attacks wouldn't care what direction you were facing.

    It's not an option I use though so I don't know the specifics just aware the option exists.
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  10. #20
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    Ameela Trussa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    If i recall although I may be wrong. That was changed a long time back when they made it so even auto attacks wouldn't care what direction you were facing.

    It's not an option I use though so I don't know the specifics just aware the option exists.
    Auto attacks were changed but actions were not, otherwise there'd be no reason for the option to exist and be on by default.
    Trust me, I accidentally turned it off around Shadowbringers time and it drove me insane trying to figure out why half my GCDs weren't going off
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