Online Store is Getting Worse!

[Renalt]

Wow this is still going on eh? Well I got a long day at work and this should be a fun read.

[MichiKyou]

I just dont buy anything. works out for me. I usually wait for the big sale once a year and get 1-2 things.

[MonsutaMan]

This would be fine if the game was F2P, but it has a box cost AND a subscription. Those sources of payment should be plenty to afford to pay the modelers and art team.

It kind of is F2P.......with how much you can do in the trial but I 100% see your point.

To get ALL the features of XIV, you gotta buy the games, pay the sub.......on top of optional cosmetics....On top of mounts....On top of "Gasp" level boost? And even Mission Skips? Not many, if any MMO allows the player to buy a pass to complete the story.......P2W...cough....cough.....
(Insert triggered white knights on their white stallions....XIV has P2W features, get over it..........)

I will say this, XIV will be the best F2P MMO on the market once Storm Blood Gets added (If it gets added). I still believe they can make a hefty profit, by keeping the F2P (Sometimes sub) leeches like myself several expansions behind, while the payers get all the shiny new stuff.

[Iyrnthota]

I just dont buy anything. works out for me. I usually wait for the big sale once a year and get 1-2 things.

It is still possible and perfectly fine to object to and compain about these things even if one has no intention of actually buying it.

Even were it free, I probably wouldn't pick it up, because I want the glam less than I want to put in the effort to go to the store and send it to my character.

That doesn't mean I can't find it utterly ridiculous they are charging extortionate amounts for a single character glam.

I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but if I wanted to buy this glam for my main and a single alt (which I would have to because it is not account wide), it would cost me more than the current expansion (15.00*2 vs 29.99).

[Kranel_San]

Online store prices are that of real-life outfits prices which is ridiculous! It shouldn't cost more than 5 at most but thanks to Limsa whales who have no life other than buying online store items as soon as they come out and Fantasia in insane bundles.

[LianaThorne]

Online store prices are that of real-life outfits prices which is ridiculous! It shouldn't cost more than 5 at most but thanks to Limsa whales who have no life other than buying online store items as soon as they come out and Fantasia in insane bundles.

I'd rather pay whatever they're asking than $150 for a CHANCE to get a single outfit like some games ask for now. (Looking at you gacha games) *shrug*

Might just be because I frequent games that have a lot of heavy monetization but it could always be worse.

As I've said before, I don't really care about giving over $20 for an OPTIONAL outfit on top of paying a sub. This is nothing weird in my world because all of my games require some form of sub or lump sum to unlock all of the options/expacs available (to fully experience the game) & have a paid cash shop for cosmetics....SWTOR, LOTRO, ESO, GW2....just to name a few. PSO2:NGS is another great example because they require a sub or for you to pay to even sell items on the marketboard while also having a gacha based cosmetic system. You can argue that they aren't making me pay a sub to access the game as a whole but they're still locking convenience and basic features behind a subscription that encourages people to sub anyway.

At the end of the day, no one is making anyone buy anything from Mogststion, no one ever will. If you think it's worth it, buy the thing you want. If you don't, then don't. It's there for people who want it, same as everywhere else.

Side note I don't think whale really fits with only spending $20....but hey I'll wear the title with pride.

[Kranel_San]

I'd rather pay whatever they're asking than $150 for a CHANCE to get a single outfit like some games ask for now. (Looking at you gacha games) *shrug*

Might just be because I frequent games that have a lot of heavy monetization but it could always be worse.

As I've said before, I don't really care about giving over $20 for an OPTIONAL outfit on top of paying a sub. This is nothing weird in my world because all of my games require some form of sub or lump sum to unlock all of the options/expacs available (to fully experience the game) & have a paid cash shop for cosmetics....SWTOR, LOTRO, ESO, GW2....just to name a few. PSO2:NGS is another great example because they require a sub or for you to pay to even sell items on the marketboard while also having a gacha based cosmetic system. You can argue that they aren't making me pay a sub to access the game as a whole but they're still locking convenience and basic features behind a subscription that encourages people to sub anyway.

At the end of the day, no one is making anyone buy anything from Mogststion, no one ever will. If you think it's worth it, buy the thing you want. If you don't, then don't. It's there for people who want it, same as everywhere else.

Side note I don't think whale really fits with only spending $20....but hey I'll wear the title with pride.

Gacha games are gambling-like games that are developed to drain your money dry. Complaining about monetization in gambling games is like going to a gambling hall and complaining about the entire place.

The complaint here is about FFXIV (and any modern MMO game by extension) in which you already pay a subscription but instead of providing you with something new in-game for free. They'd instead focus on releasing new store outfits with insane prices. To simply put, how many free new outfits did we have this year and how many cash-shop outfits were released? How good was the quality of the free outfits and how good was the quality of the cash shop outfits? This is the issue. Selling cosmetics in the cash shop is fine, but the constant release of overpriced new cash-shop outfits every two or three months with barely any good free outfits in-game is not fine.

If this was gacha or free to play game then things will be different, but when I pay a subscription I'd like to receive a good amount of free cosmetics at least in the same frequency there are new cash-shop cosmetics.

[LianaThorne]

Gacha games are gambling-like games that are developed to drain your money dry. Complaining about monetization in gambling games is like going to a gambling hall and complaining about the entire place.

The complaint here is about FFXIV (and any modern MMO game by extension) in which you already pay a subscription but instead of providing you with something new in-game for free. They'd instead focus on releasing new store outfits with insane prices. To simply put, how many free new outfits did we have this year and how many cash-shop outfits were released? How good was the quality of the free outfits and how good was the quality of the cash shop outfits? This is the issue. Selling cosmetics in the cash shop is fine, but the constant release of overpriced new cash-shop outfits every two or three months with barely any good free outfits in-game is not fine.

If this was gacha or free to play game then things will be different, but when I pay a subscription I'd like to receive a good amount of free cosmetics at least in the same frequency there are new cash-shop cosmetics.

Did we not just get a few new outfits for free with the recent updates/event? Two new ones via IS and the summer bikini are off the top of my head atm. If you want to throw gear into the mix we got new stuff from Troia, tomestone gear and savage/normal gear. There's also the new glam from custom deliveries.

Aside from the Street Set, Lyse's dress (which people were screaming to go into the Mog shop for ages, not for free, people wanted to PAY for it) and this new fat cat outfit...have they put out anything new into Mog lately? I might just be forgetting some but thinking from 6.1 to now, I don't think there has been a ton.

If you're just expecting them to send you free outfits randomly in the mail just for existing...lol.

Also on the topic above, where would they put more free outfits? They already exist in all of the places I can think of but if you have a suggestion for where more glam should be rewarded, I'm curious. Like, should all dungeons include a free glam set outside of the gear drops?

Also, the thing about thinking something is good or bad fashion wise is subjective. What you might not like, someone else will. The point there is that the game is not putting out free clothes that are to YOUR tastes, rather than none of the free stuff is good, period. Because a lot of the free stuff, to me, is good and I wear more free stuff than I do mog glam tbh lol.

[Boblawblah]

Did we not just get a few new outfits for free with the recent updates/event? Two new ones via IS and the summer bikini are off the top of my head atm. If you want to throw gear into the mix we got new stuff from Troia, tomestone gear and savage/normal gear. There's also the new glam from custom deliveries.

Aside from the Street Set, Lyse's dress (which people were screaming to go into the Mog shop for ages, not for free, people wanted to PAY for it) and this new fat cat outfit...have they put out anything new into Mog lately? I might just be forgetting some but thinking from 6.1 to now, I don't think there has been a ton.

If you're just expecting them to send you free outfits randomly in the mail just for existing...lol.

Also on the topic above, where would they put more free outfits? They already exist in all of the places I can think of but if you have a suggestion for where more glam should be rewarded, I'm curious. Like, should all dungeons include a free glam set outside of the gear drops?

Also, the thing about thinking something is good or bad fashion wise is subjective. What you might not like, someone else will. The point there is that the game is not putting out free clothes that are to YOUR tastes, rather than saying that none of the free stuff is just goof at all.

You're creating a strawman, they never said they wanted free outfits mailed to them. When you pay a subscription, some people expect to get a complete service. when you feel that you're not getting the complete service, and that focus is on getting you to spend more money on a cash shop, it can feel bad.

I don't particularly mind the cash shop, I never have to see it if I don't look for it, but I can see the OPs point.

[LianaThorne]

You're creating a strawman, they never said they wanted free outfits mailed to them. When you pay a subscription, some people expect to get a complete service. when you feel that you're not getting the complete service, and that focus is on getting you to spend more money on a cash shop, it can feel bad.

I don't particularly mind the cash shop, I never have to see it if I don't look for it, but I can see the OPs point.

I meant it as a sarcastic comment. If you thought I was serious then that's unfortunate.

And yes, you should expect a complete service...which we get in my opinion (outside of sloppy bug problems but whatever). I don't necessarily feel a push or pull to pay for cash shop items either, I just see something I like. If I don't like something, I don't buy it. They aren't shoving it in your face either like some games tend to do outside of an advertisement on the launcher that you can autopilot past on login.

I guess in this case I don't see a massive increase in mogstation stuff over in game items, it feels pretty even to me in terms of what we get per patch along with one or two mog items. If others do then that's fair enough. Like I said, fashion is subjective and what you think is good quality will be different to someone else.

Apologies to anyone who isn't being fulfilled by the current free glam/gear options in game and I hope they produce something in the future that you do enjoy. Damning the Mogstation though isn't going to get them to change the style they're going for and this thread won't get change you want. Probably should start a thread strictly for free glam ideas and get that rolling so they can actually have something to look at.