What Zero Could've Been

[KariTheFox]

Personally I hope Aveyond keeps making threads, where else am I going to read takes about Y'sthola being a "3" and Magnai being an "8". Endless source of entertainment.

[AwesomeJr44]

I've never advocated using the ignore feature.

You specifically didn't, but I definitely spot a few familiar faces here who have, and are not using their glorious solution to people they don't like. I didn't really want to point out specific examples as that'll be opening a can of worms in a thread I didn't intend on staying in for too long, but they know who they are.

And its a forum. I'm here to discuss. Unlike some.

Lest you misunderstand, I am not advocating for the use of the ignore button, I am merely pointing out the hypocrisy of those who push for others to use it while simultaneously not using it themselves.

There is no Hate Squad. We are just users on a Forum who seem to collectively disagree with Aveyond's takes. We are free to do so, just like he is free to make those takes.
This isnt a 1-way street where he is allowed to say whatever he wants unchallenged, and nobody is allowed to add their thoughts. If you want an echo chamber where the only people allowed are like-minded...make a discord. Otherwise grow up and be prepared for potential diverse opinions. This is a public forum.

Its hilarious how Strong, Brave and Bold ya'll are, but then you crumble into wet paper when you start getting pushback.

I think you misunderstand my intent here. I am not defending Aveyond, as I said before. I am neither endorsing or condemning the OP of this thread. However, in other threads, many of the usual actors have stated that the ignore button is the go-to if you don't like someone. However, they are not ignoring Aveyond who they clearly dislike to some degree. I am pointing out this hypocrisy. If you haven't pushed for the use of the ignore button in the past, don't worry, I am not referring to you. I personally am a big fan of open discussion, and hate echo chambers. Hence why I'm so vehemently against the white knights and drama baiters on the forums. That's why I'm willing to call people out on their crap when they try to turn the forums into Reddit. The ignore button goes completely against said open discussion, so if a group of posters is going to endorse it, I'm going to hold them to heir standards.

As for why I use the term 'Hate Squad', there is a group of posters who you can find on every single one of Aveyond's threads who specifically show up to either derail the thread or insult him. Have you ever seen the posts in every Aveyond thread, where people bring up the fact that Aveyond doesn't like the burger scene with Graha? Do you think that's really relevant in most situations? No it's not. Whether you agree with him or not, you're either delusional or a liar if you say that everyone here is here in good faith. Sure, there are definitely good faith posters here, and you're one of them. But it's obvious that there are posters here simply to hate on Aveyond. Thus they are the Aveyond hate squad. Again, am I referring to the everyday poster? No. But there is a group of users specifically here to hate on Aveyond.

If you think that calling out a group of people for their hypocrisy is crumbling into wet paper, you're free to be wrong if you choose.

[KariTheFox]

do these forums even have 1000 regular users? let alone double that.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I think you misunderstand my intent here. I am not defending Aveyond, as I said before. I am neither endorsing or condemning the OP of this thread. However, in other threads, many of the usual actors have stated that the ignore button is the go-to if you don't like someone. However, they are not ignoring Aveyond who they clearly dislike to some degree. I am pointing out this hypocrisy. If you haven't pushed for the use of the ignore button in the past, don't worry, I am not referring to you.

As for why I use the term 'Hate Squad', there is a group of posters who you can find on every single one of Aveyond's threads who specifically show up to either derail the thread or insult him. Have you ever seen the posts in every Aveyond thread, where people bring up the fact that Aveyond doesn't like the burger scene with Graha?

If you think that calling out a group of people for their hypocrisy is crumbling into wet paper, you're free to be wrong if you choose.

To be fair. SEVERAL times, Aveyond himself has brought up and referenced the Burger Scene and added to the derailment by talking about it more and more. Aveyond is also guilty of derailing his own threads randomly. Im definitly not an advocate of the Ignore Button; I dont believe it should ever be used unless you are literally being harassed. And I could have missed it, I dont visit EVERY thread, but for me Aveyond hasnt really be Harassed; he makes a statement, and people disagree with it, or give him flak because it is a reasonably bad take.
The Whole "Good/Bad Faith thing has been used a few times, Im not afraid to display my ignorance on that term. I dont understand it XD Its slang or whatever beyond my vocab and not one I ever use.

And no, the Crumbling like Wet paper line is directed at people who...I guess lets say can sit here and talk bad about something, and say its objective truth. But then people with the opposite opinion come in and disagree with the statement, or even spit facts to contradict and battle it. And then said person who made the original statement starts crying foul and saying things like "Im being silenced" These are people who Crumble like wet paper; the types Im talking about

[Ransu]

Have you ever seen the posts in every Aveyond thread, where people bring up the fact that Aveyond doesn't like the burger scene with Graha? Do you think that's really relevant in most situations? No it's not.

I'd say its absolutely relevant as those people are simply pointing out his history of bad takes on everything in this game.

[TheMightyMollusk]

do these forums even have 1000 regular users? let alone double that.

I don't even think there are forty regulars around here at this point. Can't say I'm really keeping track, though.

[SassyAssassin]

There is like a new thread every week from someone saying how certain npcs should or shouldn’t have been. For the love of giant beaver minion, apply for a job at squeenix if you have such issues with the story and actually want to make a difference, because this forum is completely forsaken.

[Avidria]

In the sense that he continues to terrorize the player character in every scene he appears in and can’t keep his hands off them. A demon by way of that and more a clingy sort of creature whose attempts at seduction and getting close to my character fail repeatedly because he acts so strangely. A pity that they couldn’t at least have done us the favor of making him conventionally attractive if he was going to behave in such a manner.

This is genuinely and unironically the most absolutely baffling take I have ever seen on a video game forum
Are we playing the same game? Did I fever dream this entire expansion or what?

Like my biggest issue with G'raha is that he effectively worships the ground we walk on - in a bizarrely naive hero worship kind of way. Like a, wow sure would suck to have a friend who sees you as a hero before a person kind of way. I love the guy, but I think they push that angle too hard. And I'm STILL completely baffled as to how he could be interpreted as anything close to a "demonic seductress."

Like, Haurchefaunt was worse even after being hit with a censorship bat or two. Now THAT dude was blatantly WoLsexual.

[Kes13a]

This is genuinely and unironically the most absolutely baffling take I have ever seen on a video game forum
Are we playing the same game? Did I fever dream this entire expansion or what?

Like my biggest issue with G'raha is that he effectively worships the ground we walk on - in a bizarrely naive hero worship kind of way. Like a, wow sure would suck to have a friend who sees you as a hero before a person kind of way. I love the guy, but I think they push that angle too hard. And I'm STILL completely baffled as to how he could be interpreted as anything close to a "demonic seductress."

Like, Haurchefaunt was worse even after being hit with a censorship bat or two. Now THAT dude was blatantly WoLsexual.

Haurchefaunt didnt eat hamburgers, so I imagine he is considered "okay"

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Haurchefaunt didnt eat hamburgers, so I imagine he is considered "okay"

But he had roast chicken, may as well have been eating at Boston Market!