What Zero Could've Been

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I think you misunderstand my intent here. I am not defending Aveyond, as I said before. I am neither endorsing or condemning the OP of this thread. However, in other threads, many of the usual actors have stated that the ignore button is the go-to if you don't like someone. However, they are not ignoring Aveyond who they clearly dislike to some degree. I am pointing out this hypocrisy. If you haven't pushed for the use of the ignore button in the past, don't worry, I am not referring to you.

As for why I use the term 'Hate Squad', there is a group of posters who you can find on every single one of Aveyond's threads who specifically show up to either derail the thread or insult him. Have you ever seen the posts in every Aveyond thread, where people bring up the fact that Aveyond doesn't like the burger scene with Graha?

If you think that calling out a group of people for their hypocrisy is crumbling into wet paper, you're free to be wrong if you choose.

To be fair. SEVERAL times, Aveyond himself has brought up and referenced the Burger Scene and added to the derailment by talking about it more and more. Aveyond is also guilty of derailing his own threads randomly. Im definitly not an advocate of the Ignore Button; I dont believe it should ever be used unless you are literally being harassed. And I could have missed it, I dont visit EVERY thread, but for me Aveyond hasnt really be Harassed; he makes a statement, and people disagree with it, or give him flak because it is a reasonably bad take.
The Whole "Good/Bad Faith thing has been used a few times, Im not afraid to display my ignorance on that term. I dont understand it XD Its slang or whatever beyond my vocab and not one I ever use.

And no, the Crumbling like Wet paper line is directed at people who...I guess lets say can sit here and talk bad about something, and say its objective truth. But then people with the opposite opinion come in and disagree with the statement, or even spit facts to contradict and battle it. And then said person who made the original statement starts crying foul and saying things like "Im being silenced" These are people who Crumble like wet paper; the types Im talking about

[TaleraRistain]

The Whole "Good/Bad Faith thing has been used a few times, Im not afraid to display my ignorance on that term. I dont understand it XD Its slang or whatever beyond my vocab and not one I ever use.

When someone debates in good faith, they're coming into the discussion intending to be respectful of the other parties and make their case honestly and have an open mind. When someone debates in bad faith, they aren't coming into the discussion intending to be respectful of others and make their case honestly and either have their mind made up and just want to push forward their own agenda or they are trying to coerce others into some desired action.

[Iscah]

When someone debates in good faith, they're coming into the discussion intending to be respectful of the other parties and make their case honestly and have an open mind. When someone debates in bad faith, they aren't coming into the discussion intending to be respectful of others and make their case honestly and either have their mind made up and just want to push forward their own agenda or they are trying to coerce others into some desired action.

Bad faith can also mean they don't actually hold the belief they are claiming, but are simply doing it to be disruptive and cause a negative effect.

[TaleraRistain]

Bad faith can also mean they don't actually hold the belief they are claiming, but are simply doing it to be disruptive and cause a negative effect.

This as well. A good addition. Best way to sum it up is that someone debating in bad faith isn't actually debating. They're not coming in with a mind to have the sort of back and forth and give and take that good discussion needs.