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  1. #11
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Pass on the items you don't want....that was in you for rolling on several items in a weekly lockout content. You should always focus on a specific piece each week.
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    Saimeren Stons
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    That's exactly why manypeople don't roll untill all the stuff they don't want has been rolled for.. higher chance then of getting the piece they want. And doing exactly what happened to you. You rolled a 98 and someone beat you with a lower roll..

    It can create a bit of an issue if you want the chest but won't roll u till someone's won the legs..

    Someone wants the legs but won't roll until someone's won the chest.

    And then someone else wants the boots but won't roll until someone's won everything else..

    You get 5 minutes. And usually a quick line in party chat is enough to get the loot done quicker. "/p passed everything but x and y.." couple of people usually follow up with "same" or "passed everything except y and z. And then people roll faster on all the stuff you've passed
    That's good advice.
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    Adorable creatures with unacceptable features!

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    P0sitr0nic's Avatar
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    Y'leria Rhul
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    I had no idea this games raid loot was so restrictive.
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by P0sitr0nic View Post
    I had no idea this games raid loot was so restrictive.
    Its a pretty standard loot lockout system...
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    Khit Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Its a pretty standard loot lockout system...
    Honestly, it's more permissive than some loot lockouts are. It gives you the pity books, and the gear comes as coffers you can open to get the item for the job you're on when you open it. Rather than "LOL only striking gear dropped for the second week in a row, bet you wish your static's melee wasn't DRG!" It honestly seems about as open-ended as you can get with a loot system without opening the door to Extreme Gear Cheesing (as I've detailed in other threads); I've certainly yet to see any alternative suggested (or implemented) anywhere that wasn't either worse in some aspect, or cheese-able.

    Not that "well, it could always be worse (and in fact, was worse in the past)" does anything to lessen frustrations people currently have with the loot system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer
    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
    I aim to make my posts engaging and entertaining, even when you might not agree with me. And failing that, I'll just be very, VERY wordy.

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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Remember to pass on all other items first.
    This. Eliminate competition, then roll on the item you actually want.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    When there's 8 pieces of loot, need should take precedence over greed.

    If I need 2 items, and greed the rest, the needs should be rolled on first, because I selected Need for those.
    That gets too complicated because the things you've greeded on might be things others selected need, or everyone went greed, or there's an unresolvable knot of priorities somewhere.

    If you win a piece with greed, that means nobody selected need and you're the "highest bidder" so it's yours.



    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    There's no such thing as Need or Greed on non restricted items such as tokens. You Need or you Pass. You have fundamentally misunderstood the purpose of those two options.
    That's not true. You're still able to roll greed if you are eligible to roll need – doing so simply means your roll is placed at a lower priority than anyone who selects need. I use it frequently for items I'm not fussed about acquiring, but would rather have it than let it drop to the floor.



    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Best option it to Pass on everything you don't want first, allowing those rolls to complete first.
    On the contrary, unless it's all or nothing for that specific piece, the best thing to do first would be rolling on the things you definitely want, and seeing whether (1) you get good rolls and (2) the item quickly gets awarded to someone.

    If the item sits there unclaimed but you got a good roll, that's when you start passing on the items you definitely don't want, so those rolls can hopefully complete and the first few people get their token and leave.
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  9. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    That gets too complicated because the things you've greeded on might be things others selected need, or everyone went greed, or there's an unresolvable knot of priorities somewhere.
    If that loot problem arose back when Alexander's first tier was current, would that make it...

    *pause for dramatic effect, and to let the audience have a growing sense of horror*

    ...a Gordian knot?

    (Because, y'know, the first tier of Alexander was Gordias and... yeah, I'll see myself out.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer
    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
    I aim to make my posts engaging and entertaining, even when you might not agree with me. And failing that, I'll just be very, VERY wordy.

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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    ... yeah, I'll see myself out.)
    please do
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    Dixie Bell
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    Ravana
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Be nice if they just made normal gear not loot locked after like 2 weeks, the gears worthless now anyway, its just glam to farm
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