What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Lauront]

another excellent post

Great summary about what is so laughably cringeworthy about interactions on Twitter and this presumption that the man is "mentally ill" coupled with accusations of "ableism" when you point out he's still not justified, as a result, in wiping his people out (if we wanted to play such a game, imagine how much more trenchantly you could justify some of our major villains thanks to the characteristics of some sundered societies), just because he read their every kind act as some perceived slight. And yes, I've seen the peer review comment come up a bit, and it's baffling to me. If anything, he did everything he could to evade submitting her through their usual processes. I think the main reason it wasn't picked up on as dangerous is that dynamis was an obscure area of knowledge with so few limited practical applications in their own world, that his fellow researchers probably saw it as a harmless curiosity.

[dapperfaffer]

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[Boblawblah]

truly a wonderful post

thanks for that, that was a great read lol

[Pyro2hell3]

I think part of the reason we ended with andsinger (or as I call it depression incarnate) is Hermes put a too much of himself into Meteion. They both ended up at "life sucks so I should just kill everything"

[Aneshda]

I hope Golbez devours Krile and that we get some new Faces with 7.0

[aveyond-dreams]

I hope Golbez devours Krile and that we get some new Faces with 7.0

Likewise. We don't need the latest attempt of modern media to reincarnate Hermoine Granger to join the party, certainly not in Lalafell form.

Given the utterly boring state of the Source at present it is in the best interest of the game to let whatever Golbez is planning succeed. There has to be more to the plot than "oh no Golbez is stealing a Dragon's aether" because at this point no amount of feels for Vrtra is going to be able to keep my attention unless the drama and the stakes ramp up.

We have a world lacking in so many fantasy elements that the only way to get more of them is to visit different ones or better yet, cause some form of a rejoining to forcefully inject them into the Source, combined with a cast whose personalities are as noteworthy as their individual motivations. Which is to say, not quite there. It doesn't help much either when some sectors of the playerbase are unwilling to entertain the thought of the protagonist faction enduring losses or even having bickering amongst party members because "it distracts from the action" as if such interactions weren't integral to making party members more like people in most other games.

Oh, but then we'd be hit with "FFXIV isn't like other games!" Indeed, as I don't think any other game would have stuffed the party full of scholar types and effectively paused or reversed character development for an entire expansion, on top of what I think was the worst way time travel has ever been handled. The MSQ right now is average at best, with only time telling whether it sinks below that or rises above with the introduction of the remaining future cast and revealing something else going on in the background. Side content this expansion is hit or miss, we've lost our trial series questline, lost the continuation of Bozja/Ivalice's story, Myths of the Realm so far hasn't been impressive in any factor other than how easy of an alliance raid it is, with Pandaemonium being my favorite content as the writing there is the strongest in Endwalker.

I suppose we'll have to wait for December or January for 6.3, wherein we'll likely fell Cagnazzo and Rubicante...and see the other gods that have done nothing for the past 12k years. Can't say I expect Criterion/Variant Dungeons to have that good a story, what with Nanamo starring in it. This expansion's Deep Dungeon...well it could've been hidden under the face on the Moon, except that was apparently the Bunker made by the Loporrits, unlikely for it to be in Corvos (unless they decide they want to exclude the area from being fleshed out in a potential Ilsabardian expansion), and goodness help us if they make the mistake of tying it to the tackiness of Sharlayan. An Ancients themed Deep Dungeon set in Elpis could work, but other than that I can't say I'm all too enthusiastic about it.

I just wish this game would return to form already so that I can forget that Endwalker ever happened.

[ReynTime]

Took quite a bit of searching to find a video telling like it is regarding how Ultima Thule's writing was abysmal, and it got me wishing people as articulated as Theodric, aveyond, Lauront, Vyrerus or Teraq would make videos criticizing what needs criticizing about FFXIV's writing.
Because it's incredibly hard to see any thumbnails that don't have people who need the views to make a living as creators with these predictable dramatic expressions in their thumbnails and yellow letters saying "BEST STORY EVER MADE" etc.

There is the saying "be the change you want to make" but even if I could make videos myself I'm not well articulated at all. As can be seen in any of my posts in the forum.

[Kazhar]

Took quite a bit of searching to find a video telling like it is regarding how Ultima Thule's writing was abysmal, and it got me wishing people as articulated as Theodric, aveyond, Lauront, Vyrerus or Teraq would make videos criticizing what needs criticizing about FFXIV's writing.

YouTube seems to be lacking in any kind of in-depth story analysis of Endwalker or FFXIV in general, positive or negative. It's all about story reactions with fake crying and exagerated marketable faces, or superlative adjectives but nobody to try and take it to the next level. Isn't it weird? Where is it? Even dumb shonen manga I follow get their videos essays.

[aveyond-dreams]

Took quite a bit of searching to find a video telling like it is regarding how Ultima Thule's writing was abysmal, and it got me wishing people as articulated as Theodric, aveyond, Lauront, Vyrerus or Teraq would make videos criticizing what needs criticizing about FFXIV's writing.
Because it's incredibly hard to see any thumbnails that don't have people who need the views to make a living as creators with these predictable dramatic expressions in their thumbnails and yellow letters saying "BEST STORY EVER MADE" etc.

There is the saying "be the change you want to make" but even if I could make videos myself I'm not well articulated at all. As can be seen in any of my posts in the forum.

I would simply prefer if the feedback we posted here was taken into consideration without the need for such grand overtures to be necessary to get the feedback through to the dev team about what didn't work for Endwalker. Then again, the stuff we've asked for is sometimes as basic as "don't fill the cast with the same type of character" or "don't overuse time travel" that they did anyway so whether or not they'd be even open to it after making those sort of decisions is another thing entirely.

With not much story content to look forward to until December/January, can't say that I'm feeling all that invested into FFXIV. Especially with the stuff that's set to release soon and throughout the remainder of EW's patches.

[Theodric]

Took quite a bit of searching to find a video telling like it is regarding how Ultima Thule's writing was abysmal, and it got me wishing people as articulated as Theodric, aveyond, Lauront, Vyrerus or Teraq would make videos criticizing what needs criticizing about FFXIV's writing.
Because it's incredibly hard to see any thumbnails that don't have people who need the views to make a living as creators with these predictable dramatic expressions in their thumbnails and yellow letters saying "BEST STORY EVER MADE" etc.

There is the saying "be the change you want to make" but even if I could make videos myself I'm not well articulated at all. As can be seen in any of my posts in the forum.

Hah. I appreciate the kind words! I actually considered it a few years back but my encounters with some of the more unhinged members of this community made me not want to put anything out there that would make me easy to identify in the real world.

I usually go by a different name in each online community that I'm a part of so I won't rule out possibly doing it for another game that takes its worldbuilding more seriously in the future...provided any of the upcoming MMO's manage to live up to their lofty promises and expectations.

I think FFXIV has essentially just shifted its target audience and genre altogether at this point which is highly unfortunate. It markets itself as a 'story driven' experience but it really isn't that at all - the amount of actual story we get in each content patch is often based around retconning things established earlier on, showcasing the same tiresome characters that we've been stuck with for a decade already and slowly eliminating anything with depth or grit to it such as piracy, political intrigue, religious zealotry, knowledge hoarding, warfare and so on.

I'll be continuing to provide feedback here on the forum at the very least but I'd be lying if I said most of my attention has already strayed to other games. I'm mostly just curious to see if the development team will course correct and throw a bone to those of us who didn't want the Ancients and Garleans to effectively be rendered obsolete. A vain hope, maybe, though in all honesty if it wasn't for the Garleans and Ascians I would never never have bothered sticking with this game in the first place. I'm not here for bland, one sided tales from self proclaimed 'heroes' who have minimal stakes and lecture everybody else for not being gifted with plot armour and every possible advantage to ensure their victory one way or another.

It certainly wasn't the Scions who kept me invested. Alas, if not for WoW crashing and burning at the time I never would have jumped over here in the first place and that game spiralled even further out of control after I left.

It's ironic, I suppose, that two MMO's have been ruined in large part by refusing to hold female antagonists to the same standards as their male counterparts.