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  1. #11
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    rofland's Avatar
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    Roland Montpensier
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    Mateus
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    Miner Lv 100
    orogeny hitting yourself for a midare's worth of damage is lol
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  2. #12
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    Wise Fuchsia
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Isn't the top player in Chaos DC WAR main?
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  3. #13
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    Eleonor Adharkym
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    Louisoix
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCa View Post
    Isn't the top player in Chaos DC WAR main?
    He plays PLD more often but his WAR is still brutal.
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  4. #14
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    Vatom Basilisk
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    Midgardsormr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    I think they should make it more worth the cost HP dmg and debuff wise its insane cost is a bit much for so little but I don't hate WAR just there isn't really a good reason to kill yourself if you only are tickling your enemies
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    Free the Glam!, Duel Pistols (Gunner)?

  5. #15
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCa View Post
    Isn't the top player in Chaos DC WAR main?
    WAR can still compete. Their LB is an absolute game changer. I just personally hate the whole design of abilities taking HP away, especially since all they have is bloodwhetting defensively and orogeny/onslaught not returning HP when bloodwhetting is up is just a miserable experience. Like I get it, the debuffs they apply can be pretty strong, but the amount of HP they take is nuts and you can't nullify it with bloodwhetting making those two skills only really worth using during the LB with the increased potency or when there's only like 1 or 2 enemies alive still and you wont get blown up for hurting yourself.

    I just dislike the concept of those two skills and the whole "role agnostic" concept doesn't really work when you still technically want tanks to act like tanks while having a tank not be very tanky and does meh damage when not in their LB.
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  6. #16
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    Yaba Gabagool
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    WAR can still compete. Their LB is an absolute game changer. I just personally hate the whole design of abilities taking HP away, especially since all they have is bloodwhetting defensively and orogeny/onslaught not returning HP when bloodwhetting is up is just a miserable experience. Like I get it, the debuffs they apply can be pretty strong, but the amount of HP they take is nuts and you can't nullify it with bloodwhetting making those two skills only really worth using during the LB with the increased potency or when there's only like 1 or 2 enemies alive still and you wont get blown up for hurting yourself.

    I just dislike the concept of those two skills and the whole "role agnostic" concept doesn't really work when you still technically want tanks to act like tanks while having a tank not be very tanky and does meh damage when not in their LB.
    I dunno, i think people are going to take meta over a barely 'viable' class.

    Having a really good LB doesnt make up for the fact that the remainder of the class is a hallowed out shell of a CC bot.

    You can do both things on the other tanks with considerably higher kill pressure and survivability.



    (So far on warrior, I've got from level 30 to 38 locked at silver 3. I'll win one, then lose the next 7. Unless you're playing something with a lot of kill pressure in low elo, good luck climbing out.)

    There is always monk.
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    Last edited by yaba_gabagool; 09-14-2022 at 04:21 PM.

  7. #17
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Samurai Lv 100
    WAR has a ton of kill pressure...it's just only during their LB lol. Their LB builds really fast so what you should be doing is stunning the group as often as possible while rotating keeping yourself alive with bloodwhetting and guard until you get your LB.
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  8. #18
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    Marcelloix Ostoiraint
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100

    war

    war is a decent job to tank with calling it names does not help.
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  9. #19
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    Yaba Gabagool
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    WAR has a ton of kill pressure...it's just only during their LB lol. Their LB builds really fast so what you should be doing is stunning the group as often as possible while rotating keeping yourself alive with bloodwhetting and guard until you get your LB.
    Man if you think War LB builds fast, play a Blackmage.
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  10. #20
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by yaba_gabagool View Post
    Man if you think War LB builds fast, play a Blackmage.
    I do and yes BLM builds significantly faster. BLM however does not completely remove the ability to use guard and isn't really bursty during their LB. WAR during LB can burst you down really fast if you do it right.
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