Jaggedy-Eared Jack and the like - Vote, please!

[TheVedis]

God forbid someone suggests fun content from another game made by the same company.

the problem isnt the suggestion but how they go about it

when they attach "it was in 11 therefore i want it here" thats usualy a sign that they arent really looking at any other factor

if you put forth the idea without naming other games it would be more beneficial

[Yves]

the problem isnt the suggestion but how they go about it

when they attach "it was in 11 therefore i want it here" thats usualy a sign that they arent really looking at any other factor

if you put forth the idea without naming other games it would be more beneficial

Ah, I guess the reasons that I put into why I liked it are not important.

[TheVedis]

Ah, I guess the reasons that I put into why I liked it are not important.

once you start comparing it to 11 or any other game you lose alot of people, thats the point

anything else is irrelevent the moment you start to mention what game you got the idea from

[Wolfie]

Ah, I guess the reasons that I put into why I liked it are not important.

And you couldn't say that you want rarer NMs with different pop conditions why? You saw how I agreed with you about needing different pop conditions; but not timers, dumb claim competitions, and how existing NMs aren't "fun" or whatever.

Why did this topic have to be a "I loved this in FFXI, can you please put this in FFXIV?"

Are you incapable of having suggestions to this game that don't rely on FFXI?

[TheVedis]

And you couldn't say that you want rarer NMs with different pop conditions why? You saw how I agreed with you about needing different pop conditions; but not timers, dumb claim competitions, and how existing NMs aren't "fun" or whatever.

Why did this topic have to be a "I loved this in FFXI, can you please put this in FFXIV?"

Are you incapable of having suggestions to this game that don't rely on FFXI?

thats my whole point


there are 2 ways to post things like this

1) "i want NMs with longer spawns that are rarer"

2) "I want NMs with longer spawns that are rare because its in FF11"

which do you think people will react more positively to?

[ThePatriarch]

And you couldn't say that you want rarer NMs with different pop conditions why? You saw how I agreed with you about needing different pop conditions; but not timers, dumb claim competitions, and how existing NMs aren't "fun" or whatever.

Why did this topic have to be a "I loved this in FFXI, can you please put this in FFXIV?"

Are you incapable of having suggestions to this game that don't rely on FFXI?

So, after seeing 20 of these same posts, I want to ask you this:

What is wrong, with ideas coming from Final Fantasy XI to Final Fantasy XIV?

Don't give me the childish response of, go play Final Fantasy XI. It was a great game, and its successor sucks. Would it not make perfect sense to utilize ideas from a prior title to enhance a failing game?

[Wolfie]

So, after seeing 20 of these same posts, I want to ask you this:

What is wrong, with ideas coming from Final Fantasy XI to Final Fantasy XIV?

Don't give me the childish response of, go play Final Fantasy XI. It was a great game, and its successor sucks. Would it not make perfect sense to utilize ideas from a prior title to enhance a failing game?

Because most of these suggestions that are coming from FFXI are completely against the direction that FFXIV wants to take, and there is no justification behind some of these ideas aside from "it was in FFXI."

If there was more thought put behind them and if they were modified to fit with how FFXIV is meant to be, then I have no problems with it. I'm not too much of a s**tpickle to say no to NMs or open world content, but I am against open world content that has obtuse respawn timers and conditions, and that promotes heavy competition. I want them to add more mid level and higher level NMs for solo players and for flavor in the world. I don't want them to add more Noble Mold/Voluptuous Vilma/Fafnir/Cerberus/Tiamat s**t that left more people frustrated than happy.

[Yves]

And you couldn't say that you want rarer NMs with different pop conditions why? You saw how I agreed with you about needing different pop conditions; but not timers, dumb claim competitions, and how existing NMs aren't "fun" or whatever.

Why did this topic have to be a "I loved this in FFXI, can you please put this in FFXIV?"

Are you incapable of having suggestions to this game that don't rely on FFXI?

You're right - referencing an actual past experience is a bad idea. It would be best just to say "I like this." I think Ben Franklin should've refrained from using his experiences with the French political system. Or that Lee Iacocca shouldn't have brought his experiences from Toyota to the US auto industry.

1. This is what I liked
2. This is where I experienced said events
3. This is what I specifically liked about them

Kind of hard to mention #3 without an experience.

You're being obstinate by falling back to the argument that a point of reference defaults an idea to a bad one automatically, despite the mechanics. Logically, that's just being problematic without justification. If you lack the comprehension to actually divulge the concept from the statement without a knee-jerk reaction you are simply being an asswipe.

Are you serious?

Either way, close the fucking thread - as with most things on these useless forums it devolves into grabassery and idiocy with people vehemently trying to derail anything they don't like.