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  1. #11
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    Arzalis's Avatar
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    Kemi Epoc
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 82
    It actually works on seal rock too (seen people do it), it's just that you can recapture there so it's less effective.

    But yeah, SE is just actively refusing to do anything about the PLD exploit at this point, so I have to say it's the worst game mode now.
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  2. #12
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    Rajeko Thunderbright
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    Lich
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    Scholar Lv 98
    I've seen too many teams hard carried by pld abuse to see Onsal as anything but a joke at this point. To the point where I don't even play it for the daily roulette. The instant I see cover cheese I just accept the fact that the teams who don't use it are playing with a massive inherent disadvantage, and my efforts become half-hearted and unmotivated.
    It's way too easy to set up, most jobs have ZERO ways to counter it, and I'm just done. Done standing there uselessly while invincible enemies wade through the chaos and auto-cap.

    Boycotting the whole map until a change is made. Losing to it is the worst feeling ever, and winning with it feels cheap and unearned.
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  3. #13
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    Victor Spoils
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    Coeurl
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    It's the best by virtue of being the smallest, quickest, and most kill-friendly, which makes it less boring and good for achievements. Getting to keep objectives also helps.
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  4. #14
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    Yaba Gabagool
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by VictorSpoils View Post
    It's the best by virtue of being the smallest, quickest, and most kill-friendly, which makes it less boring and good for achievements. Getting to keep objectives also helps.
    Paladin exploit doesnt make it a bad map. It just means that they need to fix paladin.

    Honestly, dont even know why it's being brought up. Make a paladin thread about the exploit.
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  5. #15
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    Rueby's Avatar
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    Vera Nova
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    Spriggan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by yaba_gabagool View Post
    Paladin exploit doesnt make it a bad map. It just means that they need to fix paladin.

    Honestly, dont even know why it's being brought up. Make a paladin thread about the exploit.

    It makes it a bad map from the enjoyment PoV. It's not fun to play the 'objectives' when the objective is getting yoinked from under the noses of over 24 people. So yes. Currently? Worst map. Exclude PLD? Pretty fun.

    Shocker I wonder why people are mentioning pld cover in a map where pld cover makes the mode objectively worse ahahaha
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  6. #16
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    Arzalis's Avatar
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    Kemi Epoc
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by yaba_gabagool View Post
    Paladin exploit doesnt make it a bad map. It just means that they need to fix paladin.

    Honestly, dont even know why it's being brought up. Make a paladin thread about the exploit.
    It's been broken for over five months. Until SE fixes it, it's just a part of the map at this point.
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  7. #17
    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Diabolos
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by yaba_gabagool View Post
    Paladin exploit doesnt make it a bad map. It just means that they need to fix paladin.

    Honestly, dont even know why it's being brought up. Make a paladin thread about the exploit.
    Since I see at least one PLD use that exploit every single time I'm there, it's definitely a core part of the experience on that map. You can't actually deny that.
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  8. #18
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    Silver Faye
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    Louisoix
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by yaba_gabagool View Post
    Paladin exploit doesnt make it a bad map. It just means that they need to fix paladin.

    Honestly, dont even know why it's being brought up. Make a paladin thread about the exploit.
    It seems to be a pretty big part of the experience tbf. Funnily enough, I haven't ran into it myself yet. Probably jinxed my luck with that but hey.
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  9. #19
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    Llynethil Kindle
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    Balmung
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Shatter is still by far the best map because it focuses more on actual fighting, and the ice spawns are actually fair.

    Just like seal rock, onsai can be a lose simply because the leading team keeps getting all the good points close to their base, hate the rng of the point spawning on both these maps and wish it would be changed, though it's even worse on seal rock if west team keeps getting points near them due to the giant advantage they have of capping and defending those points.
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