Jaggedy-Eared Jack and the like - Vote, please!

[Wolfie]

Why can't you deal with both things being in game? Would it be oh so terrible that we had both FFXIV type NMs and FFXI like ones? How does this hurt you?

Because it's wasted development time for s**t that the majority of players don't like or want. The NMs we have now are fine and everyone (except people still stuck in FFXI gear) likes them. Nobody (except people still stuck in FFXI gear) likes NMs with horrid pop conditions or competition for camping these NMs.

Yoshi said he wanted this game to be like a theme park. Okay, I don't like to get on the kiddy rides, I like the roller coaster. I like camping ying yang robe with just 6~8 players against two full alliances and WINNING. I like that kind of ride man. It doesn't have to do anything with yours. Why can't you stay in the spinning tea cups while I go up and down and around in the roller coaster!? Live and let live man.

I like how you euphemistically make fun of my skill because I don't like wasting my time doing nothing, and I don't like developers wasting time making extensive content for a minority of players.

Maybe a more apt comparison is we both want to get on the rollercoaster, but they have a "special" seat for "hardcore rollercoaster dudes." It's somewhere in the middle of the rollercoaster and isn't anything special, but only one person can sit in it at a time, and there's a separate line for getting on that seat, which of course, only lets in one person per ride.

[Jinko]

Maybe a more apt comparison is we both want to get on the rollercoaster, but they have a "special" seat for "hardcore rollercoaster dudes." It's somewhere in the middle of the rollercoaster and isn't anything special, but only one person can sit in it at a time, and there's a separate line for getting on that seat, which of course, only lets in one person per ride.

This !......

[Majidah]

Because it's wasted development time for s**t that the majority of players don't like or want. The NMs we have now are fine and everyone (except people still stuck in FFXI gear) likes them. Nobody (except people still stuck in FFXI gear) likes NMs with horrid pop conditions or competition for camping these NMs.

Oooooooooooooooooh.

When Yoshi said he had to finalize the cost estimation he meant he had to chat with you, since you seem to be so knowledgeable in the subject.

Didn't know that tossing a normal enemy labeled with a different name that runs on a timer would break the piggy.

/SARCASM

Maybe a more apt comparison is we both want to get on the rollercoaster, but they have a "special" seat for "hardcore rollercoaster dudes." It's somewhere in the middle of the rollercoaster and isn't anything special, but only one person can sit in it at a time, and there's a separate line for getting on that seat, which of course, only lets in one person per ride.

Actually a more apt comparison would be that I like to go hunting for a single hare against other people while you like waiting in line for a burger.

And for some reason my way bugs you and interferes with your meal.

[Wolfie]

Oooooooooooooooooh.

When Yoshi said he had to finalize the cost estimation he meant he had to chat with you, since you seem to be so knowledgeable in the subject.

Didn't know that tossing a normal enemy labeled with a different name that runs on a timer would break the piggy.

/SARCASM

You must be f**king joking if you seriously think that the only things that the devs have to do to get a NM out is to rename a monster and just drop it somewhere in the world. Do you?

Actually a more apt comparison would be that I like to go hunting for a single hare against other people while you like waiting in line for a burger.

And for some reason my way bugs you and interferes with your meal.

Actually a more apt comparison is you and a bunch of rednecks with guns go out into the woods to hunt for an albino rabbit that you heard rumors about. Also joining you will be the entirety of the four closest towns.

Meanwhile, I go get some friends, some guns, a hunting license, and go to an actual hunting ground that has more than one rumored rabbit. Except, unfortunately, most will be brown and black, with maybe an occasional albino one.

[Majidah]

You must be f**king joking if you seriously think that the only things that the devs have to do to get a NM out is to rename a monster and just drop it somewhere in the world. Do you?

In response, the OP:

One of the aspects of FFXI that I just loved was the world NMs. What set them apart and made them fun was that they were just like any other mob - only different in name and level!

Here I was thinking you actually read the OP. My bad.

bla bla bla.

Okay, so you admit you like being cradled by the system and dislike competition and that what we do interferes in no way with what you do. I'm glad you could come into terms with logic.

[Wolfie]

No, I'm specifically asking you if you believe that the only things that need to happen from the design teams, dev team, and QA team to get a NM out is to simply add in some code and change the monster name. Is this what you believe?

I also like how the moment I say that I don't like dumb claim competitions, that I'm "cradled by the system." Are you implying that actually fighting the mobs can't involve skill? Or that in FFXI, the skill test was getting the claim and not actually killing the NM? Are you saying that getting a claim involves skill, and not just luck, bots, or good latency?

[downfind]

Because it's wasted development time for s**t that the majority of players don't like or want. The NMs we have now are fine and everyone (except people still stuck in FFXI gear) likes them. Nobody (except people still stuck in FFXI gear) likes NMs with horrid pop conditions or competition for camping these NMs.



I like how you euphemistically make fun of my skill because I don't like wasting my time doing nothing, and I don't like developers wasting time making extensive content for a minority of players.

Maybe a more apt comparison is we both want to get on the rollercoaster, but they have a "special" seat for "hardcore rollercoaster dudes." It's somewhere in the middle of the rollercoaster and isn't anything special, but only one person can sit in it at a time, and there's a separate line for getting on that seat, which of course, only lets in one person per ride.

Please don't speak for me when you say the majority of people. The OP is right, the challenge of claim, the thrill of discovering a NM that just popped, the randomness, and competetion all contributed to the fun. The NM system they have in place is noobish as Majidah pointed out with his rollercoaster analogy. Keep in mind that the majority of the people who play this game came from XI. These people left XI because it wasnt the same game it used to be years ago (book burn parties, level sync, etc.). They are moving to XIV by the many because they're hearing about the updates and changes being made. If the game is to be the success that XI was, than the players will expect a similiar experience in a new world to explore.

Primals and Instanced Raids dont have to be eliminated for these to co-exist.