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  1. #91
    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Firemage Li
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    You don't have facts what you can't know behind a text, I made a observation from my personal experience, someone didn't like what I said and tried to meme and memed back, and we could have been more polite in retrospect, and so I tried to defuse it without being snappy at said person about it with the next.

    Then you come in, and started causing problems by being abrasive facts or not, and never it had to go that way.

    Far as I'm concerned you were looking for trouble.
    Facts are never abrasive. Again if you see a factual statement and take offense, that is on you. And again, the one looking for trouble was you given you bumped the topic after over 24 hour of inactivity to fight with someone
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  2. #92
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    Adrian Gungnir
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    Dude, I was here only to defuse that situation.

    I don't mind your facts, but yet you were abrasive (just be polite next time).

    You came in and made it worse, end of story.
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  3. #93
    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Firemage Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    Dude, I was here only to defuse that situation.

    You came in and made it worse, end of story.
    The situation was defused. Note the whole no one posting for over day. YOU lit it back up by bumping the topic. And then by trying to come for me for addressing facts
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  4. #94
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    Adrian Gungnir
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    Brynhildr
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    No, you're misunderstanding my posts.

    I don't mind what you have to say and what facts you provided, but you came off as abrasive, and used choice words that didn't need to be said.

    How else did you expect to me respond? I don't want to continue this, please lets move pass this already.
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    Last edited by Kaliesto; 09-12-2022 at 10:10 AM.

  5. #95
    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Firemage Li
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    No, you're misunderstanding my posts.
    I understand them just fine, including you bumping a topic after a day to fight with someone
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  6. #96
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    Zabu Jinjahl
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    Ultros
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    savage loot and token system and also mechanics in the fights are prone to assume people is in static. raiding is never PF friendly. Even in static, people always prioritize give the gear piece to DPS. So kind of not fair on the both end.
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  7. #97
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    Noah Orih
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    I mentioned this before but to specify more specifically, this is what I'd consider:

    1. At week 1, we get the new tomestone tier at a cap of 450 which stays this way on week 2. From week 3 to week 12, the cap increases by 75 each week, capping at 1200. During the next odd patch (i.e. X.1, X.3, X.5), the cap is removed.

    2. Raid accessories stay costing 4 books and all raid armor and the raid weapon cost 6 books. Each time you purchase raid gear with books, the cost of all gear of that book type decreases by 2 until the cost becomes 2.

    Tier 1/5/9 Books: First purchase costs 4 books / All other purchases costs 2 books.
    Tier 2/6/10 Books: First purchase costs 6 books / Second purchase costs 4 books / All other purchase costs 2 books.
    Tier 3/7/11 Books: First purchase costs 6 books / Second purchase costs 4 books / All other purchase costs 2 books.
    Tier 4/8/12 Books: First purchase costs 6 books / Second purchase costs 4 books / All other purchase costs 2 books.

    This keeps raid gear restricted at first but eases up as time passes, allowing you more flexibility in gearing up additional jobs.
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  8. #98
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    Martyn Dracht
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    Lich
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Why don't you try making friends?
    If you're so insufferable that nobody wants to put up with you long enough to raid in a static with you, frankly, that's a (social) skill issue.
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  9. #99
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    Ribald Hagane
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    Dont bother, its just a se whiteknight. For him you can play any class in any content because savage not existing for him.
    Bold statement considering I raid on 4 characters a week. I probably had close to 300 savage kills last tier, and I quit raiding before they remove the loot lockout. I cleared P7S on 3/4 of my character on week 2. But everyone are born politician these days so I guess calling and labeling everyone who disagree are second natural for most. You probably don't know there were a time people can realize others just have ... different opinion then them without any 2nd string attached. But then I can't blame you if the current behavior is shaped by the only social norm you know of. Sometime I miss the 20th century.


    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    How many of them are KMMORPGs and 12+ years old games with outdated garbage systems? Even then, you have 19 jobs on your character here, yet the system seems to be build upon maining single job, with weird clusterfuck of gear sharing and strict weapon limitations.
    I see you have great debate strategy, preemptive limit your opponent by eliminating like 80-90% of MMO on the market? Yeah I play some KMMO, but none last me for more than 2-3 months 'cause their shallowness bore me. I also used to play a lot, if not most western popular Western MMO, all the way back to Ever-quest. Yeah they're old, but neither FF14 is a spring chicken.

    Also like I said above, I play on 4 chars. They already give you a bunch of advantage with it. Maybe because I'm more keenly aware of the pain of re-rolling new characters that I don't take the benefit of the 1 character system for granted. Just because it doesn't offer you the benefit in one area that you want (gearing), it doesn't mean all the other things it offered don't exist.
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    Last edited by Raven2014; 09-13-2022 at 11:00 PM.

  10. #100
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Halicarnassus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Martynek View Post
    Why don't you try making friends?
    If you're so insufferable that nobody wants to put up with you long enough to raid in a static with you, frankly, that's a (social) skill issue.
    Why do you think it's friends and not being able to commit to a scheduled time commitment? It's not hard at all to make friends even for the more abrasive among us.
    The problem is committing to a regular schedule and 7 people being angry at you if you have a family emergency or are called into your job unexpectedly. Committing to 1-3 hours of PFs is way easier than committing to a schedule 8 weeks in advance.
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