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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    Apparently, a lot people still have trouble with these recipes... Some can't do it at all, some are trying hard but only getting 1/10 crafts or something.
    In the end, the competition on MB isn't that bad (at least on my world). Some sellers are "multi-world sellers". You can see them having that "Obtaining Signature" sign on their items, and they're selling 1 or 2 per kind of components. It's very obvious that they're selling over a few different worlds to diverse investment and evade from excessive undercutting from a single world. But because of that, they are also not super crazy about undercutting things every 5 min.
    I wonder what "Obtaining Signature" actually represents now. The Maker's Signature is now retained when moving items between worlds in the same region. I've noticed this when using one character to go on a Aether/Primal shopping spree for items I want on multiple alts then transferring the purchased items to the intended recipient.

    So does Obtaining Signature now represent items being brought over from another region through character transfer? Players who transferred to Materia with their inventory loaded with cheap and useful crafted items may have noticed if the Maker's Signature switched to Obtaining Signature on everything. I'm fairly certain it would also represent items crafted by characters that have seen been deleted.

    I try to avoid anything marked Obtaining Signature on the MB when purchasing because my gut feeling is most of it is related to botting shenanigans. Obtaining Signature ends up a nice way to conceal source from legitimate players who have a good idea of who their local bots are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    I wonder what "Obtaining Signature" actually represents now. The Maker's Signature is now retained when moving items between worlds in the same region. I've noticed this when using one character to go on a Aether/Primal shopping spree for items I want on multiple alts then transferring the purchased items to the intended recipient.

    So does Obtaining Signature now represent items being brought over from another region through character transfer? Players who transferred to Materia with their inventory loaded with cheap and useful crafted items may have noticed if the Maker's Signature switched to Obtaining Signature on everything. I'm fairly certain it would also represent items crafted by characters that have seen been deleted.
    Hmm, I am not sure what it means then.
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

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    Caimie Tsukino
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    I wonder what "Obtaining Signature" actually represents now. The Maker's Signature is now retained when moving items between worlds in the same region. I've noticed this when using one character to go on a Aether/Primal shopping spree for items I want on multiple alts then transferring the purchased items to the intended recipient.

    So does Obtaining Signature now represent items being brought over from another region through character transfer? Players who transferred to Materia with their inventory loaded with cheap and useful crafted items may have noticed if the Maker's Signature switched to Obtaining Signature on everything. I'm fairly certain it would also represent items crafted by characters that have seen been deleted.
    I recently saw from the MB the retainer who listed the item from "Obtaining Signature", and the crafter's signature changed to an actual player's name. I character-searched the player, and found him/her to be on a totally different data center than mine. So apparently, he/she is a data center hopper (which might explain why the retainer's name contained the word "hopper").
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

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    Liam Harper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    I recently saw from the MB the retainer who listed the item from "Obtaining Signature", and the crafter's signature changed to an actual player's name. I character-searched the player, and found him/her to be on a totally different data center than mine. So apparently, he/she is a data center hopper (which might explain why the retainer's name contained the word "hopper").
    If it's a bot (not saying that's a definite, just if), then it's generally because the bot mass crafts a huge number of items, then distributes them to retainer alts on multiple worlds to sell. This allows them to sell more items at once to a wider market.
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