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    I'd never want to live in Sharlayan. Their pacifist nature is extremely troubling. Especially given how powerful their mages are in the world of FFXIV. If they'd helped the Eorzean Alliance far earlier, instead of scouring their own colony when The Empire invaded Ala Mhigo Louisoix along with thousands of other people might still be alive. I also still hate Fourchenault, a man who could look his progeny dead in the eyes and tell them essentially, "Nothing, no one, is worth going to war for." (He actually framed it as a question, something along the lines of, "What would be worth going to war for? Nothing!) No matter how much the story has shied away from this to just tell us how much he worries over his kids and loves them... I'll never like the guy. Nor his society by extension (though its aesthetics minus the stupid Forum robes are very pleasing to me).

    If it weren't for the Scions and the WoL and the Eorzean Alliance including its Far Eastern allies, then Sharlayan wouldn't get to enjoy its society. In fact, if we want to step into the realm of supposition, you could say that without the Empire being a unifying threat, other nations might even look towards Sharlayan to take what they have (How's pacifism going to serve them then?). Of course, this is a largely happy ending sort of story, so I doubt we'll see anything like that (at least from anyone from The Source).

    Compared to Amaurotine society, which is post-war, post-disease, and post-scarcity... the choice is easy. Though honestly, I don't like the Ancients' robes either. The mask thing is sorta cool.

    All in all though, if I had to live anywhere in FFXIV assuming I gained no special powers just by living there, then I'd probably choose Terncliff or some other Imperial province. Largely due to it having Magitek. Things like street lamps, along with other appliances similar to contemporary ones I enjoy IRL. If I could gain powers though, then I'd like to live on the Ruby Sea. Maybe I could befriend the Kojin and get that water breathing blessing. Maybe get a sweet cutie wife from Sui-no-sato(maybe convince her to live on the surface with me cause I don't like Sui-no-sato's pacifism anymore than I do Sharlayan's).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    I'd never want to live in Sharlayan. Their pacifist nature is extremely troubling. Especially given how powerful their mages are in the world of FFXIV. If they'd helped the Eorzean Alliance far earlier, instead of scouring their own colony when The Empire invaded Ala Mhigo Louisoix along with thousands of other people might still be alive. I also still hate Fourchenault, a man who could look his progeny dead in the eyes and tell them essentially, "Nothing, no one, is worth going to war for." (He actually framed it as a question, something along the lines of, "What would be worth going to war for? Nothing!) No matter how much the story has shied away from this to just tell us how much he worries over his kids and loves them... I'll never like the guy. Nor his society by extension (though its aesthetics minus the stupid Forum robes are very pleasing to me).

    If it weren't for the Scions and the WoL and the Eorzean Alliance including its Far Eastern allies, then Sharlayan wouldn't get to enjoy its society. In fact, if we want to step into the realm of supposition, you could say that without the Empire being a unifying threat, other nations might even look towards Sharlayan to take what they have (How's pacifism going to serve them then?). Of course, this is a largely happy ending sort of story, so I doubt we'll see anything like that (at least from anyone from The Source).

    Compared to Amaurotine society, which is post-war, post-disease, and post-scarcity... the choice is easy. Though honestly, I don't like the Ancients' robes either. The mask thing is sorta cool.
    Amaurot didn't seem to be much better, considering they only had one representative to deal with threats to the star, Azem. They often didn't seem to intervene at all (judging from the first side story) until things were brought to their attention, often with Azem (Venat in this case) already having a solution for them. Outside of that, they too seemed to keep a hands off approach with the world with pacifism. Another comparison to be made between the two in a sense, except Sharlayan's closest comparison to having an Azem was basically Louisuix, and the Scions of the Seventh Dawn whom Sharlayan stayed away from until now in order to preserve their neutrality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Amaurot didn't seem to be much better, considering they only had one representative to deal with threats to the star, Azem. They often didn't seem to intervene at all (judging from the first side story) until things were brought to their attention, often with Azem (Venat in this case) already having a solution for them. Outside of that, they too seemed to keep a hands off approach with the world with pacifism. Another comparison to be made between the two in a sense, except Sharlayan's closest comparison to having an Azem was basically Louisuix, and the Scions of the Seventh Dawn whom Sharlayan stayed away from until now in order to preserve their neutrality.
    We can't actually say whether or not Amaurotines were pacifists, because they lived in a post-war world. Sharlayan does not.

    On an individual level, they seem to be fine with violence as problem resolution, should it come to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    We can't actually say whether or not Amaurotines were pacifists, because they lived in a post-war world. Sharlayan does not.

    On an individual level, they seem to be fine with violence as problem resolution, should it come to it.
    Since they tried their hardest to avoid anything that caused actual major conflicts within Amaurot, and actively encouraged debate as a way to deal with disagreements, it's very possible they were. You wouldn't exactly take those steps unless you were trying to actively avoid conflict. Also, the violence they used seemed to be more towards creatures, not each other, except in very rare occasions, like us having to beat down Hermes so he could be scolded.
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