Excessive maintenance is starting to piss off the casual, non-raiding players.

[NekoMataMata]

Prime time for one part of the US, js. East and Mid are into the night hours when people are asleep. The only people really getting screwed over are the West Coasters but again, you can survive one night without a game. Spend time with your family or friends or play something else. If you can't survive without FF then that's a whole other issue.

There's more people in the world than just the US and this thread is a reminder of why we're called the entitled country.

"We're." Do you have a mouse in your pocket, or did you just happen to forget that North America is more than just the U.S.?

I'm not going to argue against that it's just a game or anything. I'm just pointing out that it might suck a little for some people. I also don't think it's prime time for just west coast players since evenings are often really busy for a lot of people and they sometimes won't get on until 9-12 PM.

Perhaps I shouldn't call it prime time for those areas, but I do think there's a crowd that does get on that late, in addition to people that have night schedules.


Anyways, I didn't come here to argue for changes or anything like that. I'm just pointing out that it does suck for some people and reminding people not to be rude about it.

[VerdeLuck]

Prime time for one part of the US, js. East and Mid are into the night hours when people are asleep. The only people really getting screwed over are the West Coasters but again, you can survive one night without a game. Spend time with your family or friends or play something else. If you can't survive without FF then that's a whole other issue.

There's more people in the world than just the US and this thread is a reminder of why we're called the entitled country.

Entitled for what? wanting to be able to play a game I pay money for monthly? Not wanting every maintenance to fall under my region's prime time hours instead of it being spread out?
That doesn't seem entitled at all. Maybe European players and JP players should be inconvenienced by a patch every now and then instead of it always falling on NA hours.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Entitled for what? wanting to be able to play a game I pay money for monthly? Not wanting every maintenance to fall under my region's prime time hours instead of it being spread out?
That doesn't seem entitled at all. Maybe European players and JP players should be inconvenienced by a patch every now and then instead of it always falling on NA hours.

Most maint is 11pm-3am pst. Some are earlier, but not often.

It's hardly every maintenance.

[Saraide]

Entitled for what? wanting to be able to play a game I pay money for monthly? Not wanting every maintenance to fall under my region's prime time hours instead of it being spread out?
That doesn't seem entitled at all. Maybe European players and JP players should be inconvenienced by a patch every now and then instead of it always falling on NA hours.

Unfortunately for you, the world is round. Therefore pretty much any time will be inconvenient for someone on the planet. Other games will have more convenient times for NA people. Live letters have been at like 3am for EU people, that's also annoying.

[Boblawblah]

I wouldn't say people annoyed are entitled, availability of a service has become a huge part of our modern culture. That said, if they have to bring down all the servers at once, I guess it makes sense that they do it when it is convenient for them. If they're not, and only bringing down say the NA servers during prime time NA just because it's convenient for the employees in Japan? Eh, that's not cool imo.

[flowerfairy]

Steam is a worldwide service that goes under maintenance Tuesday, shutting down all of their online games. Of course some people are slightly inconvenienced but this is what you have to do to properly maintain servers to make sure they're working as best as possible and patching up any vulnerabilities, hence the name maintenance.

FFXIV is far, far, FAR from excessive maintenance. They even give us a 3 day warning in advance. It sucks that it can happen during your freetime, but... just do something else. What are you gonna do, tell them "no do it another time"?

[caffe_macchiato]

Excessive maintenance? No, it isn't. It is a pretty normal level of maintenance for an MMO.

Many MMOs have a maintenance period once a week just for rebooting the servers. That's once a week, every single week.

This. Square Enix is a small company and doesn’t have the time or resources to excessively plan maintenance for optimal time periods. They’re a Japanese company, so they will always plan when Japanese players are usually offline. And given the very old infrastructure that Square has, it would be very devastating if the game didn’t have maintenance at all.

Also, it’s not like we have much content to play anyway. Most of my friends are finished with the game and are going back to WoW or other games. FFXIV isn’t something you’re supposed to play every day, only once a week if you’re a raider. Most people just idle and chat and they could easily do those things on Discord.

We should all be grateful that we only pay $13 a month, that’s cheaper than Netflix.

[RexVex]

With maintenance... My thing is, they give enough heads up and warning that it's happening. You're given the information to say, "Okay, game will be unavailable from x time to y time, so I won't be able to do xyz between these times."

Anything online you should expect to have some form of maintenance. Mobile games have it weekly. WoW has its weekly maintenance.

[Boblawblah]

Square Enix is a small company and doesn’t have the time or resources to excessively plan maintenance for optimal time periods..

you almost had me lol

[Rueby]

So which one of you dropped the noodle code or tripped on a wire that we're getting so many maints