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    We need new Scions (a whole new Group)
    Why? With what justification?

    Ryne, Gaia,
    ..are on the First and cannot travel beyond the Rift.

    Dont even mention the soul crystals, you know what Beq Lugg had to say when we tried it ( "You did WHAT?????" ), it is FAR too dangerous

    Gaius is in Terncliffe and has his hands full, he was offered the chance but his duty said no stay, he is needed where he is now. Too many ghosts, too many deaths, his first and only duty now is to Garlemald and to the children he raised. he and the Scions have far too much between them now.

    Erenville is a Gleaner, has his own life, is not an adventurer and has no reason to drop it all and join the Scions, his life and duties are to Sharlayan and the Gleaners..he has the life he wants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Why? With what justification?



    ..are on the First and cannot travel beyond the Rift.

    Dont even mention the soul crystals, you know what Beq Lugg had to say when we tried it ( "You did WHAT?????" ), it is FAR too dangerous

    Gaius is in Terncliffe and has his hands full, he was offered the chance but his duty said no stay, he is needed where he is now. Too many ghosts, too many deaths, his first and only duty now is to Garlemald and to the children he raised. he and the Scions have far too much between them now.

    Erenville is a Gleaner, has his own life, is not an adventurer and has no reason to drop it all and join the Scions, his life and duties are to Sharlayan and the Gleaners..he has the life he wants.
    They could travel with an Atomos, just like we did.
    Show me in which Quest Gaius got an offer to join us?
    And Garlemald is gone, there is no Duty left.
    He has 1 child, all others died.
    Erenville travels across all of Hydaelyn as a Gleaner, he would be perfect, if someone knows the World, then for sure him.
    You write like you are in panic that one of them would join us, like you would know them personaly.
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    Someone call the Forum Police! Because I wrote passive aggressively that DT looks not good. Oh how right I was!

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    They could travel with an Atomos, just like we did.
    They need to find a planar fissure ON THEIR SIDE.

    Show me in which Quest Gaius got an offer to join us?
    You didnt do the weapon series, did you

    And Garlemald is gone, there is no Duty left.
    Nope, you didnt do it.

    He has 1 child, all others died.
    Yes he does. And if you dont know how they died, go find out.

    Erenville travels across all of Hydaelyn as a Gleaner, he would be perfect, if someone knows the World, then for sure him.
    He isnt interested and never was. Even at the end of EW, Erenville remains to work in Sharlayan, free to roam as he wishes, working with the Forum.

    You write like you are in panic that one of them would join us, like you would know them personaly.
    Nope, just the facts according to the lore. Gaius would never join the Scions, theres way too much bad blood between him and virtually everybody. His past is his own to deal with, he has a lot of ghosts to lay to rest.

    All but one of his adopted children dead, because of his actions. His encounters with Estinien notwithstanding, his personal duty is with Garlemald and its people.

    From the wiki:

    Despite this, he resolved to fulfill his promise to Alfonse by overseeing Werlyt's restoration as part of its provisional government. Sometime later, Gaius activated the memories Alfonse had given him and presented them to Allie, displaying holograms of their past and restoring her mind.
    and

    He realized that his presence would jeopardize the mission due to his reputation. He instead promised to defend Werlyt while others liberated Garlemald in his stead.
    Try as he might wish, Gaius will never not be the Black Wolf..no one will trust him.

    His duty lies elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    They need to find a planar fissure ON THEIR SIDE.



    You didnt do the weapon series, did you



    Nope, you didnt do it.



    Yes he does. And if you dont know how they died, go find out.



    He isnt interested and never was. Even at the end of EW, Erenville remains to work in Sharlayan, free to roam as he wishes, working with the Forum.



    Nope, just the facts according to the lore. Gaius would never join the Scions, theres way too much bad blood between him and virtually everybody. His past is his own to deal with, he has a lot of ghosts to lay to rest.

    All but one of his adopted children dead, because of his actions. His encounters with Estinien notwithstanding, his personal duty is with Garlemald and its people.

    From the wiki:



    and



    Try as he might wish, Gaius will never not be the Black Wolf..no one will trust him.

    His duty lies elsewhere.
    Boy stop to interpret something in those Quests that are just not there. I know every single quest with Gaius, every single one with all Ascians. After Endwalker I rewatched every single Cutscene of all Quests. You make up a Story that is not true.
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    Someone call the Forum Police! Because I wrote passive aggressively that DT looks not good. Oh how right I was!