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    Quote Originally Posted by Iyrnthota View Post
    I don't understand, are you implying the writers are bullying you by writing a story that you are not a fan of?

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    No I was saying you where telling me to leave for having a opinion you don't like
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  2. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiRon View Post
    I didnt forget Gosetsu (altho frankly a roe without any FANTASY RACE attributes to begin with and human skintone may as well be a roided up highlander) but he vanishes after Yotsuyu dies and while he does return in the ranged dps ew story he also vanishes again because...idk.
    But ye its not a conspiracy when its objectively true.
    I was really hoping he'd end up the scions circle and we'd do more with him, he brought something different at least
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiRon View Post
    I didnt forget Gosetsu (altho frankly a roe without any FANTASY RACE attributes to begin with and human skintone may as well be a roided up highlander) but he vanishes after Yotsuyu dies and while he does return in the ranged dps ew story he also vanishes again because...idk.
    But ye its not a conspiracy when its objectively true.
    I'll admit, I did have to go look up if Gosetsu was actually a Roe.
    I was previously under the impression that he was just a hyur that they'd repurposed a Roe body model for.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    When is Sthola more than a respected work colleague than a friend. I can't remember many scenes where she's been a actual friend to the player character
    remember that touching scene in endwalker after your character gets kidnapped, roofied, and unconscious body is violated she says "Wipe the cobwebs from your head".
    What an absolute peach I certainly hope she doesnt Flow herself out of existance again and we dont have any ways to deus ex machina her, her over papalymo or haurchefant or ysayle, for the 20th time again.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    No I was saying you where telling me to leave for having a opinion you don't like
    As I said to Aveyond, I'm not saying you should leave the game, I'm suggesting that if you continue to dislike the story and the direction it is continuing to progress in, perhaps stop engaging with the story.
    The game has many other facets to it for you to enjoy, the story isn't mandatory and the skip button is always available (well, almost always).
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iyrnthota View Post
    As I said to Aveyond, I'm not saying you should leave the game, I'm suggesting that if you continue to dislike the story and the direction it is continuing to progress in, perhaps stop engaging with the story.
    The game has many other facets to it for you to enjoy, the story isn't mandatory and the skip button is always available (well, almost always).
    This game has very little without it's story, which was broadly good until Endwalker so I do feel it's worth voicing that I think there are issues with it.
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    He's definatly had the most effort put in and it's mostly worked out OK, though I don't feel like his friend I find too many bits with him arc a little too close to being his minder. I think Urianger has some good scenes that gave the feeling he was really worried about what the character thinks of him which was quite moving. I can remember many heartfelt scenes with say Y'sthola and G'raha had them but for me the writing made them feel really one-sided and awkward.
    I just feel that out of all the Scions, Alphinaud was always the one whom served as the WoL's guide and voice. And it shows with how naturally his character growth felt as we experienced many of the major trials and tribulations together. He's not necessarily my favorite character but he is the one whom we can genuinely actually call him "our best friend"
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  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    This game has very little without it's story, which was broadly good until Endwalker so I do feel it's worth voicing that I think there are issues with it.
    What is it that you enjoy doing in the game then, if you don't mind me asking?
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iyrnthota View Post
    I don't understand, are you implying the writers are bullying you by writing a story that you are not a fan of?



    I'm not saying "if you don't like the story, f' off to WoW" or something. I'm suggesting that perhaps if you don't enjoy the book you're reading, put if down and pick up another.
    I even suggested just skipping and enjoying the rest of the content the game has to offer. It's a perfectly viable way of engaging with the game.

    I would also disagree with your latter point. While it's obviously rather difficult to pull out data for something like this, annecdotally based on my interactions with the community on social media and in game, the scions are a huge factor in the success and popularity of FFXIV and it's story.
    The Ascians and Emet are also a large factor, no doubt, but I would argue the Scions themsevles have a larger pull.
    The only scions actively hyped about by people in my daily life are Ysh because cat girl waifu, G'raha because same reasons and Urianger because memes about how he talks. I don't really hear anyone lavishing them with praise because of how they were written or the impact they have on the story. It's usually just simping or memes.

    Taking a look at Zenos, Fandaniel, Emet, Meteion, Hermes...the villains of the story, I see a lot more in reference to the opposite...how they were written & what impacts they had on the stories they were involved in. I mean, some people obviously simp for Emet but, you get my point.
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  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    I just feel that out of all the Scions, Alphinaud was always the one whom served as the WoL's guide and voice. And it shows with how naturally his character growth felt as we experienced many of the major trials and tribulations together. He's not necessarily my favorite character but he is the one whom we can genuinely actually call him "our best friend"
    Yeah Alphinaud is one of the few characters that you're not just told they're dear close friends to you. You go through a lot that justifies it. Most of the others are basically workmates.
    I think that's why I didn't shed any tears for Haucherfant's passing. It makes sense to mourn for him, just like it would have made sense to mourn over Papalymo. They were both valuable support to our journey for different reasons. But the game tries to force me to act like he was this life-changing dearest BFF when the extension of our interactions didn't back that level of closeness.
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