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    Semirhage's Avatar
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    Savage has a weird loot system that was very obviously cribbed from another successful MMO (with tweaks). The thing is, that other MMO doesn't let you swap jobs freely. You have alts if you want to play on a different class, and the loot lockout is different per character. FF14 has a bizarre loot system that's designed around bottlenecking your gear upgrades, but said bottleneck is taken from a system that allows you to gear your other classes at the same time. There are several really odd design decisions in this game that clash pretty starkly with the concept of job swapping; it's like they implemented the ability to change jobs at will, but there are also so many things that block you off from progress with more than one job at a time. I'd rather see this game invent new systems that lean INTO that freedom instead of borrowing from systems that only make sense in the absence of that freedom.
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    Savage has a weird loot system that was very obviously cribbed from another successful MMO (with tweaks). The thing is, that other MMO doesn't let you swap jobs freely. You have alts if you want to play on a different class, and the loot lockout is different per character. FF14 has a bizarre loot system that's designed around bottlenecking your gear upgrades, but said bottleneck is taken from a system that allows you to gear your other classes at the same time. There are several really odd design decisions in this game that clash pretty starkly with the concept of job swapping; it's like they implemented the ability to change jobs at will, but there are also so many things that block you off from progress with more than one job at a time. I'd rather see this game invent new systems that lean INTO that freedom instead of borrowing from systems that only make sense in the absence of that freedom.

    That's definitely another issue with the loot system, they insist on adding 2 new jobs each expansion which means more jobs to gear depending on whether or not you actually play those, but we haven't gotten more ways to gear those jobs at the same time.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 09-08-2022 at 04:48 AM.

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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Maybe it's not badly setup and you are just impatient. If you wait 8 weeks, you can buy a lot of the gear with books.

    Why do the raids for 8 weeks instead of looting it all in the first week? Because that is how the savage raids work in this game. They want you to reclear them for weeks and unless you are in a static that each has 8 characters, there isn't much of a workaround unless you get extremely lucky.

    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    That's definitely another issue with the loot system, they insist on adding 2 new jobs each expansion which means more jobs to gear depending on whether or not you actually play those, but we haven't gotten more ways to gear those jobs at the same time.
    They have not added new gear types, so there is nothing new except the weapons. They appear as coffers now so you don't even have to clear on the jobs you want them for.

    It's definitely true that SE works on the assumption we have a main job that we choose for a raid tier.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    Playful Kitten
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    Ravana
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    Dancer Lv 100
    You mean you don't like being a healer this tier?

    Every fight being a hard heal check, yet your still last priority on gear?

    3 weeks in and 0 loot feels great wym.
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